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person found and is now in the

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possession of Yama the game is rigged

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his face is black with your host Jimmy

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Church on the game changer radio network

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a GRA the global radio a life

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your health into the year

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your nickname - thank you guys with

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Jimmy judge only game-changing headless

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good evening betablox it's the smoke

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radio for the masses how you do today's

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Wednesday May 31st 150 days into the new

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year just 215 days left we're live from

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a bunker somewhere in downtown Burbank

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California I would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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this is fade to black for kjp are the

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game changer Network in kg RA the planet

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I'm your host Jimmy Church good evening

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everybody how you doing what a week it's

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Stuart Pearce on Monday Jordan Maxwell

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last night and tonight dr. Robert Schoch

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a little shock and awe

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tonight the gobekli tepe special good

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luck with that everybody

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I think that's did I just hit number

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three number three gobekli tepe yeah man

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okay lots to do tonight it's going to be

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that show the show that you want is here

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dr. Robert Schoch and the gobekli tepe

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special event tomorrow night another

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no more fake newsroom live followed by

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open lines all night long that will

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to do tonight happy birthday to Clint

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Eastwood today is 87 Wow Colin Farrell

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how to say that correctly our dead guys

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of silence john bonham john henry bottom

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1948 to 1980 died at the age of 32 he

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best ever and that will probably never

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change happy birthday John Henry Bonham

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when Robert Plant goes John Bonham John

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Henry Bonham you never forgot that

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song god save the queen and by making

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the most famous man in the world took

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bottom yeah man John Henry Bonham happy

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unreal alright fader fact Pope Francis

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your Pope Francis has never used the

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million followers and that is a fader

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fact tonight very special guest dr.

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Robert Schoch he is here it is the

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gonna do love we gonna do open lines

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I so you know just depends on us but if

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wants to take phone calls so here's your

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chance you ever wanted to speak to

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Robert Schoch I'll open up the phone

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lines in a little bit three two three

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upheld the life without parole sentence

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for Ross Ulbricht the creator and

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sentenced three months later a

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Court of Appeals rejected his appeal of

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his conviction and sentencing earlier

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today lawyers for all burg who was known

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as the Dread Pirate Roberts on that huge

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massive dark web marketplace argue that

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know draconian over it claimed that the

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investigation into him used illegal

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searches because surveillance of his IP

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address occurred with

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to warrant I have talked about this many

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many many many times on this show and

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the way that it ultimately went down

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you're dealing with you know hidden

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servers and and the Tor network and and

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so forth getting a warrant to to a

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specific place that you don't even

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all hidden is that was a difficult thing

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for them to do the way that they did it

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ultimately in the end and allowed that

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search warrant to kind of blanket a lot

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of a lot of secret stuff that was going

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down and I'm not going to go into those

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details but the judges didn't buy his

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argument they found that the

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surveillance of his home network

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Facebook and Gmail accounts as well as

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the seizure in search of his personal

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laptop which happened at a library we're

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all backed up by a warrant and we're

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legal under modern readings of the

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Fourth Amendment now as you may or may

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not remember he was at a public library

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had his laptop open and he was signed in

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as the administrator at that exact

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moment when he was caught when he was

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apprehended now this is what they ended

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up saying now listen to this this is the

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court the substitution of electronic

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message this is a quote the substitution

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of electronic methods of communication

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for the telephone call says not alone

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create a reasonable expectation of

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privacy in the identities of devices

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with whom one communicates

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that's according to Circuit Judge Gerard

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ile inch now that's what he wrote after

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the ruling the court sees no

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constitutional difference between

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monitoring monitoring a home phone

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dialing information and an IP address

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routing data end quote

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scary let me continue Albrecht also

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argued that at least two of the

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undercover federal agents involved in

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the investigation secret serve

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Special Agent Shawn bridges and drug

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enforcement DEA special agent Carl Force

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were found to be corrupt and they were

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their corruption was crucial to the

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defense he argued because it would

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reveal the agents ability to falsify

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evidence against him and demonstrate

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their motive to do so and quote yes they

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work her up yes they admitted it yes

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they were convicted yes more on this in

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just a bit the two agents used their

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undercover access to exploit the Silk

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Road site for their own benefit in

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various ways both bridges and force

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pleaded guilty to money laundering and

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obstruction of justice

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while force also pleaded guilty to

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extortion in connection with their work

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on the investigation of the site the

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judges likewise dismissed this argument

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that they were corrupt and therefore if

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they're corrupt there's no telling what

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else they messed with to get the

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conviction and collect evidence against

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Albrecht although the agents shocking

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personal corruption disgraced the

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agencies for which they work Lynch wrote

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courts must also take care and that the

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wrongdoing by the investigators that it

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had no bearing on the matter before the

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court not be used as a diversion from

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fairly accessing the prosecution's case

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so what the court decided and this is

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where I tend to agree okay I just I tend

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to understand the judges take on this

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which is this the crimes were committed

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Silk Road ran drugs and other thing I

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mean dar by this is a dark world that

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was running on Silk Road that quickly

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spun out of control and that that

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happened and Albrecht collected all of

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that money all of those bitcoins so what

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crimes are the investigation happened

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later but it doesn't affect the crimes

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that were committed and the

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Silk Road was running and he was the

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dude and that's where I have to side

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with the judges I don't want to I have

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to the to the two corrupt men and they

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were making money they were doing all

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kinds of things those two special agents

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they they had their own little crime

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syndicate going on but they were caught

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had nothing to do with the crimes

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committed okay

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that's like saying man you go and you

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rob a bank

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and you you go in and you're shooting up

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the place and and and you escaped with

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the cash and then you get caught by the

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police later and they come in and take

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some of the money and now you want this

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whole case thrown out because there are

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a couple of corrupt cop that doesn't

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change the fact that you robbed the bank

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you can't get out of it and you're never

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going to the cops will be charged

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separately and that's the way that it is

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and I have to kind of look at it that

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way right now

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Alburgh also argued that the sentence

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was unreasonable because the creation of

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Silk Road in 2011 made the illegal

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narcotics industry safer as he removed

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drug deals from the streets and applied

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a feedback system to promote preferred

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buyers and sellers over those who were

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deemed untrustworthy between 2011 and

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2013 182 million dollars worth of drugs

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were sold on the site now again in its

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in its innocence if you look at it that

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way the way that Ross is painted the

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picture and again I agree with Ross

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partially here that you know if you want

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to buy some weed instead of going down

396
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in some crazy part of town and risk

397
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getting robbed or risk getting you know

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ripped off on some bad quality weed or

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risk getting arrested right and

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transporting drugs in your car

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buy your weed on Silk Road will deliver

402
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to you it's going to be guaranteed we're

403
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going to hold your cash in an escrow

404
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account you get the weed and you say man

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this is the best weed I've ever had

406
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you rate the dealers and you give them a

407
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good rating boon the cash gets released

408
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you get your weed nobody gets arrested

409
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and there you go alright and in its idea

410
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it's good but what it's facilitated

411
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after that because you give an avenue

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for criminals to run amok that's exactly

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what's going to happen here and it's

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spun out of control for him so I

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understand and there's a little bit more

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to this but we don't know fish well we

417
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do he was one of the DPRs the Dread

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handed down to him and he took it over

419
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and then he you know passed it off and

420
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had other administrators okay alright

421
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but the bottom line is he was the Dread

422
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Pirate Roberts and Silk Road was his now

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moving on he said he said this in a

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letter to the court where he was

425
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pleading for leniency and I'm going to

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quote here directly from the letter he

427
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says I created so growed now he's

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admitted to it right

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I created Silk Road because I believed

430
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at the time that people should have the

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right to buy and sell whatever they

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wanted as long as they weren't hurting

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anyone else I've learned from Silk Road

434
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that when you give people freedom you

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don't know what they'll do with it

436
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Silk Road turned out to be a very naive

437
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and costly idea that I deeply regret now

438
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again and I Ross I feel your pain I met

439
00:22:00,890 --> 00:21:56,820
your mom I met her in New York and and I

440
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get it the thing is with I get the

441
00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:05,400
passion but you can't after the fact say

442
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you know what robbing that Bank was a

443
00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:11,040
bad idea you know I'm a good guy I went

444
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to college I'm educated I was going to

445
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be an engineer and and I just I went

446
00:22:19,550 --> 00:22:17,520
down the wrong path and now I look back

447
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and I reflect and I didn't mean to whip

448
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out that gun and pointed at people and

449
00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:22,050
scare that

450
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and fire that shot into the ceiling and

451
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then and then take the money out and and

452
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and drive away in my car I even spent it

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on stuff I should have spent it on I I

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regret all of it judge please listen to

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me I'm a good guy

456
00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:37,260
you know what every criminal when they

457
00:22:44,180 --> 00:22:39,750
get caught says the exact same thing you

458
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know they they really really do and Ross

459
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in this case I'm just saying you may be

460
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a good guy but you took the money

461
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and you continue to run Silk Road for a

462
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long time and I'll say this Ross as much

463
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as it pains me because I look at your

464
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videos that I see the home movies and I

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see the pictures and and I understand

466
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that you were and still are a cool guy

467
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but the fact is if you hadn't gotten

468
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:14,190
caught you still would be doing it today

469
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that's it Edie and and it Silk Road

470
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would have been god man selling

471
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murder-for-hire I don't know but but

472
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that's the truth you know you didn't

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back out if you had back out and sold it

474
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and said look man I'm giving the money

475
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back and and and turned all the

476
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information over the feds and then he

477
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got a leg to stand on but you didn't you

478
00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:43,110
just got caught it was a staggering

479
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amount of volumes and narcotics deals

480
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everybody along with the overdose deaths

481
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of six customers and we had to look at

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that the judges said that that justified

483
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the life sentence

484
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Lynch went on to write Albrecht was

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classified as a drug kingpin during of

486
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the trial allowing for mandatory minimum

487
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sentence of 20 years prosecutors did not

488
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seek a life sentence but judge Katherine

489
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force chose to send a message to whether

490
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would be drug kingpins on the dark web

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although the court of appeals expressed

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concern about forced sentencing decision

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it just is legal and judges have a wide

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range of movements that they can take

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then go all the way from throwing out

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sentence literally even though there's a

497
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minimum mandatory here judge could shock

498
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everybody right and then you had the

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other side where they can just go past

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the minimum mandatory and and go with a

501
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life sentence and again I have to say

502
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when you are trying to project this this

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safe way to purchase things illicit

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materials and you're taking the crime

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off of the streets all of that sounds

506
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great you know what six people died of

507
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overdoses you know that they purchased

508
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there and that is part of with anything

509
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that's part of a risk that you have to

510
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take whether it's your gonna manufacture

511
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cars brakes go out on your car that you

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design a new cell and somebody dies that

513
00:25:34,339 --> 00:25:30,509
time you alright that's it's just simply

514
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part of doing business and you ran Silk

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Road and you're doing something like

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this it just comes with it as harsh as

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all of this is and it's it's I know he's

518
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a good guy i I just know it we're way if

519
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you've ever seen the movie Deep Web and

520
00:25:57,589 --> 00:25:54,809
some other Ross documentaries that are

521
00:26:00,709 --> 00:25:57,599
out there and you see the passion from

522
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his friends and his family and the way

523
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that he was raised in the way that he

524
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just and he just wanted to be the

525
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smartest guy in the room and he was just

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massively educated and and saw the world

527
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you know and to see that for somebody to

528
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just take a wrong turn somewhere and do

529
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this with his life it saddens me it

530
00:26:27,889 --> 00:26:24,450
saddens me but any judge will tell you

531
00:26:30,139 --> 00:26:27,899
any judge criminals come and go in their

532
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court and they see everything all the

533
00:26:34,729 --> 00:26:32,759
time and they see all types of cases but

534
00:26:37,549 --> 00:26:34,739
the one thing that they hear over and

535
00:26:40,519 --> 00:26:37,559
over again is you know what I'm a good

536
00:26:43,729 --> 00:26:40,529
guy I didn't mean to participate in this

537
00:26:46,369 --> 00:26:43,739
crime my buddy here was or there that

538
00:26:47,220 --> 00:26:46,379
guy you know they were but but me judge

539
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I'm a good guy

540
00:26:51,149 --> 00:26:49,389
well the judge is going to say look man

541
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:51,159
you didn't pick up the phone and call

542
00:26:57,180 --> 00:26:54,610
the police on your friends you know you

543
00:26:59,970 --> 00:26:57,190
didn't know you participated and you

544
00:27:03,000 --> 00:26:59,980
collected the money and you drove the

545
00:27:05,610 --> 00:27:03,010
getaway car whatever it is you did all

546
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to me now because you got caught and it

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Schoch he's coming up after this short

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that's for gobekli tepe go back Lee

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calm what's up whatever that I imagine

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I'm your host Jimmy Church on the game

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tonight we have with a very special

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guest dr. Robert Schoch that's right a

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little shock and awe with our gobekli

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tepe special event tomorrow night's

622
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another pater night with Jon Rappoport

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and his no more fake news room live

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followed by open lines and we'll get to

625
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some open lines tonight too as well dr.

626
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Robert M shock he is a full-time faculty

627
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member at the College of general studies

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at Boston University since 1984 earned

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his PhD in 1983 in geology and

630
00:32:22,050 --> 00:32:19,000
geophysics at Yale he also holds an MS

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and an MPhil in geology and geophysics

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00:32:27,210 --> 00:32:24,130
from Yale as well as degrees in

633
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:27,220
anthropology ba geology of BS from

634
00:32:30,660 --> 00:32:29,440
George Washington University I don't

635
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:30,670
know how he got all this done he is

636
00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:34,270
about 29 years old and in 2014 dr.

637
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:35,980
Schaack was awarded the title of

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honorary professor of the Nichola

639
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:42,040
bapak are you ready bats are of Naval

640
00:32:47,820 --> 00:32:45,490
Academy in Varna Bulgaria I want a full

641
00:32:51,150 --> 00:32:47,830
explanation on that in just a minute

642
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:51,160
in the early 1990s dr. Schaack stunned

643
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the world with his revolutionary

644
00:32:57,660 --> 00:32:55,600
research that recast the date of the

645
00:32:59,910 --> 00:32:57,670
Great Sphinx of Egypt to a period

646
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thousands of years earlier than its

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standard attribution and demonstrating

648
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that the monument has been heavily

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eroded by water despite the fact that

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its location on the edge of the Sahara

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has endured hyper arid climatic

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conditions for the past 5,000 years dr.

653
00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:17,710
Schaack revealed to the world that

654
00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:20,140
mankind's history is greater and older

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00:33:25,260 --> 00:33:23,350
than previously believed his latest

656
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:25,270
research put forth in his newest book

657
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:27,880
forgotten civilization a role of solar

658
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outbursts in our past and future points

659
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to the astronomical cause of the demise

660
00:33:39,180 --> 00:33:37,150
of civilizations as well as the

661
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scientific and archaeological evidence

662
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that supports his conclusions of course

663
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:44,920
tonight I also want to dedicate this

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show to

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00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:48,430
his partner in crime John Anthony West

666
00:33:54,570 --> 00:33:52,480
who is just doing that heroic thing he's

667
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:54,580
dealing with cancer right now Roberts

668
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:57,610
website is Robert Schoch comm and I

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black our good friend dr. Robert M shock

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00:34:07,050 --> 00:34:03,340
Robert good evening

672
00:34:09,630 --> 00:34:07,060
yeah good evening thank you and are you

673
00:34:14,190 --> 00:34:09,640
back are you are ya did you get some

674
00:34:16,620 --> 00:34:14,200
rice back I'm back home is what I think

675
00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:16,630
you're asking me no I mean I'm referring

676
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:18,880
to your head because you have been out

677
00:34:25,740 --> 00:34:21,310
on the road for the last couple of weeks

678
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:25,750
and you guys just got back you know it's

679
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:28,560
like it's like a band on tour right

680
00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:31,780
exactly that's a very good analogy yeah

681
00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:34,600
we just got back Katie my wife and I

682
00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:38,680
just got back less than 24 hours ago so

683
00:34:44,030 --> 00:34:41,740
it it's been interesting we've been

684
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:44,040
traveling a lot this year

685
00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:47,110
everything from Peru Bolivia Easter

686
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:53,020
Island Malta India and then I think as

687
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:54,850
you know I filled in for John Anthony

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00:35:01,440 --> 00:34:57,310
West on a tour to Egypt that he was

689
00:35:03,450 --> 00:35:01,450
supposed to have led but obviously with

690
00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,460
his cancer he couldn't do it that's what

691
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:06,160
friends do you know yeah yeah I was so

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00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,550
vocal about that it you know in a way I

693
00:35:14,490 --> 00:35:12,400
felt I felt proud right but I was like

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00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:14,500
hey what did he mean it's what he was

695
00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:17,230
supposed to do exactly what there's no

696
00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:18,820
way I could've done it right you don't

697
00:35:23,580 --> 00:35:21,040
give an award for that that's just what

698
00:35:26,730 --> 00:35:23,590
you're supposed to do right exactly

699
00:35:28,290 --> 00:35:26,740
exactly but it has been I don't want to

700
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:28,300
complain I'm not complaining at all but

701
00:35:36,180 --> 00:35:31,810
it's it's been a busy year so far now

702
00:35:39,390 --> 00:35:36,190
before we okay I I think you know this

703
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:39,400
but I'll just say this in advance the

704
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:41,950
fader nots who love you so much the

705
00:35:48,090 --> 00:35:46,510
fader odd because I I am I've been so

706
00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:48,100
vocal about gobekli tepe

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00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:50,230
over the last few years they developed a

708
00:35:55,860 --> 00:35:53,410
drinking game and every time you are I

709
00:35:58,860 --> 00:35:55,870
say gobekli tepe you know what they have

710
00:36:02,010 --> 00:35:58,870
to do right what they have to

711
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:02,020
not me yeah or me or we would never get

712
00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:04,960
through the show for sure so I'm just

713
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:07,990
going to warn you in advance so think

714
00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:10,690
about that but anyway that's how much we

715
00:36:18,350 --> 00:36:14,430
are behind you and your research all of

716
00:36:21,090 --> 00:36:18,360
your compadres out there that have been

717
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:21,100
looking into gobekli tepe and visiting

718
00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:22,930
the site I have not done it Reid and I

719
00:36:26,670 --> 00:36:24,910
have been there yet and certainly with

720
00:36:28,350 --> 00:36:26,680
what's going on in the Middle East that

721
00:36:31,170 --> 00:36:28,360
makes things you know pretty tough these

722
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:31,180
days yeah but what I would not suggest

723
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:33,730
at the moment honestly yeah yeah that's

724
00:36:39,210 --> 00:36:35,650
it's getting pretty hairy out there and

725
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:39,220
and I would really get upset if

726
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:41,110
something happened to go back with epi -

727
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:42,610
that's the other thing because it is

728
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:45,880
it's very close to the craziness I

729
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:48,640
wanted to before we get to go back Lou

730
00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:51,570
tapi you brought up Easter Island and

731
00:36:56,730 --> 00:36:54,670
you were just there and I kind of want

732
00:36:59,790 --> 00:36:56,740
to talk about it for just a bit if you

733
00:37:03,570 --> 00:36:59,800
don't mind because Easter Island which

734
00:37:07,230 --> 00:37:03,580
if you go back to the original Chariots

735
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:07,240
of the Gods and the way that Erich von

736
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:10,210
däniken did what didn't really introduce

737
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:11,890
it to the world but certainly into

738
00:37:19,830 --> 00:37:16,450
popular culture right um a star island

739
00:37:22,890 --> 00:37:19,840
has kind of been ignored you know and is

740
00:37:26,220 --> 00:37:22,900
it because it is so remote and it's

741
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:26,230
difficult to get to but the significance

742
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:28,510
of Easter Island how what when and where

743
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:31,510
is just as dramatic as any other

744
00:37:37,260 --> 00:37:34,090
megalithic site on the world why do you

745
00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:37,270
think Easter I keep trying to say go

746
00:37:41,010 --> 00:37:38,830
back Lou taffy I feel sorry for the

747
00:37:43,740 --> 00:37:41,020
audience why do you have a drink right

748
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:43,750
yeah exactly why do you think Easter

749
00:37:51,090 --> 00:37:46,960
Island just isn't spoken about like uh

750
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:51,100
you know Giza or Cusco Peru you know

751
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:52,930
other megalithic sites around the world

752
00:37:58,290 --> 00:37:55,690
I think there's a couple of reasons one

753
00:38:01,740 --> 00:37:58,300
it's in a very different part of the

754
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:01,750
world it is isolated it is it's not

755
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:04,090
difficult to get to in the modern age

756
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:06,910
because you can fly there from Santiago

757
00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:09,910
but for anyone and say North America or

758
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:11,830
Europe you have to fly to Santiago you

759
00:38:16,710 --> 00:38:12,690
have to fly

760
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:16,720
then to Easter Island it's expensive it

761
00:38:22,769 --> 00:38:20,170
costs money when we've gone and we've

762
00:38:25,259 --> 00:38:22,779
always gone usually to Peru Bolivia and

763
00:38:27,509 --> 00:38:25,269
then gone to Easter Island but when we

764
00:38:30,180 --> 00:38:27,519
fly back Katy and I and we live in

765
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:30,190
Boston Massachusetts when we fly back it

766
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:33,490
takes a good 24 hours rental continuous

767
00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:35,410
flying and connecting flights without

768
00:38:40,529 --> 00:38:37,869
any you know not really stopping

769
00:38:45,390 --> 00:38:40,539
anywhere anywhere just to get back and

770
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:45,400
the thing is it has been I believe based

771
00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:48,880
on the evidence sorely underestimated by

772
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:50,920
the classical archaeologists so the

773
00:38:55,859 --> 00:38:53,260
classical archaeologists essentially

774
00:38:59,779 --> 00:38:55,869
have a scenario of Easter Island having

775
00:39:03,120 --> 00:38:59,789
not been inhabited by any humans until

776
00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:03,130
1202 maybe fifteen sixteen hundred years

777
00:39:08,579 --> 00:39:06,190
ago which puts it outside of the range

778
00:39:11,279 --> 00:39:08,589
of you know looking at really ancient

779
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:11,289
civilizations they also have the

780
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:14,970
scenario that it was exclusively

781
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:18,190
Polynesian inhabited by are settled by

782
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:20,410
the Polynesians coming from the West

783
00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:22,930
they have poo-pooed Thor Heyerdahl who I

784
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:25,390
have great respect for the late Thor

785
00:39:29,490 --> 00:39:27,490
Heyerdahl Roy thought there was also

786
00:39:31,470 --> 00:39:29,500
South American influence and I want to

787
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:31,480
point out that he has since been

788
00:39:38,130 --> 00:39:34,750
vindicated by various genetic studies by

789
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:38,140
various botanical studies looking at

790
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:40,930
plants that got to Easter Island in very

791
00:39:46,349 --> 00:39:44,410
ancient times from the South American

792
00:39:49,289 --> 00:39:46,359
continent far from the Americas I should

793
00:39:51,210 --> 00:39:49,299
say but particularly South America so

794
00:39:53,779 --> 00:39:51,220
there's been a lot of misconception

795
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:53,789
about Easter Island I would say on the

796
00:40:00,660 --> 00:39:58,170
part of the classical historians and

797
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:00,670
archaeologists and it's difficult to get

798
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:04,089
to for the average person even to this

799
00:40:09,749 --> 00:40:07,150
day so it's it's been one of these sites

800
00:40:11,759 --> 00:40:09,759
where you see big moai easter on heads

801
00:40:14,609 --> 00:40:11,769
all over the place in fact we were just

802
00:40:18,029 --> 00:40:14,619
at both you and I were contact in the

803
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:18,039
desert right and if I remember correctly

804
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:20,500
one of the big posters at the

805
00:40:24,349 --> 00:40:22,690
amphitheater there they had Easter on

806
00:40:27,259 --> 00:40:24,359
heads on it

807
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,269
this is what is crazy let me let me ask

808
00:40:34,489 --> 00:40:30,720
you a couple of pretty simple questions

809
00:40:37,130 --> 00:40:34,499
these heads which now have been revealed

810
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:37,140
that they are absolutely huge why we

811
00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:38,970
have you know we only saw the head part

812
00:40:45,979 --> 00:40:42,140
right but some of them weigh you know a

813
00:40:50,210 --> 00:40:45,989
hundred tons 150 times 200 tons I think

814
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:50,220
it's waters red the biggest minute - I'm

815
00:40:56,329 --> 00:40:53,849
sorry 250 tons now I want them that

816
00:40:58,729 --> 00:40:56,339
still in the quarry is estimated 250

817
00:41:02,839 --> 00:40:58,739
tons but even moving a head around

818
00:41:04,999 --> 00:41:02,849
that's 30 or 40 tons is no miner feet

819
00:41:07,970 --> 00:41:05,009
know specially when you're a little

820
00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:07,980
island and when you go have you been to

821
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:10,200
Easter Island no no I have not I lived

822
00:41:14,809 --> 00:41:13,170
in Panama - I totally clothes I got you

823
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:14,819
should come with us sometime I would

824
00:41:18,769 --> 00:41:16,710
love to like Katie and I were married

825
00:41:22,279 --> 00:41:18,779
there oh is that right

826
00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:22,289
yeah yeah that I did not know I did not

827
00:41:27,170 --> 00:41:25,140
know that she is so cool by the way I do

828
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:27,180
want to say a special shout out to Katie

829
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:30,480
but there are some really cool shots of

830
00:41:37,339 --> 00:41:33,420
you and I add contact and there's one

831
00:41:39,950 --> 00:41:37,349
shot of right after the panel where

832
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Katie somebody had taken some

833
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:42,210
behind-the-scenes stuff there's a shot

834
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:45,450
of Katie smiling and shaking my hand I

835
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:47,369
just want to talk okay - right now it is

836
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:50,130
the coolest picture ever and I will send

837
00:41:53,930 --> 00:41:52,170
it to you guys yeah please send it to us

838
00:41:56,089 --> 00:41:53,940
because I haven't seen that wonderful

839
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:56,099
yeah I'll send it to you and but I

840
00:42:01,509 --> 00:41:58,170
wanted to say this really quick I didn't

841
00:42:04,299 --> 00:42:01,519
know that you were that tall and and it

842
00:42:08,539 --> 00:42:04,309
completely caught me by surprise but

843
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:08,549
what was it like because a contact we

844
00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:10,170
have thousands of people there and then

845
00:42:14,930 --> 00:42:12,839
on that Monday when you and I bumped

846
00:42:17,809 --> 00:42:14,940
into each other when the place was empty

847
00:42:19,489 --> 00:42:17,819
right oh he wasn't it strange and we

848
00:42:21,739 --> 00:42:19,499
took pictures of each other taking

849
00:42:24,589 --> 00:42:21,749
pictures of each other exactly yeah it

850
00:42:27,410 --> 00:42:24,599
was pretty cool but the it was empty

851
00:42:29,809 --> 00:42:27,420
what died I wasn't that kind of a trippy

852
00:42:31,940 --> 00:42:29,819
feeling that you just maybe really yeah

853
00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:31,950
because all these people were there and

854
00:42:36,499 --> 00:42:34,950
then you know the crowd disperses again

855
00:42:38,090 --> 00:42:36,509
I guess you know Monday people have to

856
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:38,100
go do what they have to do

857
00:42:45,260 --> 00:42:39,810
and what were you doing wandering around

858
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:45,270
alone very weird anyway back to Easter

859
00:42:50,420 --> 00:42:48,810
Island the nice guys I was getting ready

860
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:50,430
for the next conference you know the

861
00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:53,090
smaller cosmic origins Sedona conference

862
00:42:59,360 --> 00:42:56,040
which is what we just got back from yeah

863
00:43:02,210 --> 00:42:59,370
I just got back Susie Joanna and this

864
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:02,220
ties in with Easter on now in Sedona we

865
00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:05,610
were looking at petroglyphs and that

866
00:43:10,220 --> 00:43:07,740
ties back to Easter Island because there

867
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:10,230
are major beautiful petroglyphs on

868
00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:12,210
Easter Island besides the big moai the

869
00:43:18,170 --> 00:43:14,790
heads and torsos and this all ties back

870
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:18,180
to the end of the last ice age and what

871
00:43:22,490 --> 00:43:19,740
was happening at the end of the last ice

872
00:43:25,490 --> 00:43:22,500
age in terms of my own research on a

873
00:43:27,770 --> 00:43:25,500
major solar outbursts that ended the

874
00:43:29,710 --> 00:43:27,780
last ice age that people were recording

875
00:43:31,970 --> 00:43:29,720
the what we can all plasma

876
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:31,980
configurations in the sky and you see

877
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:34,650
that on Easter Island in the Ron go Ron

878
00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:36,570
goes group you see then the petroglyphs

879
00:43:39,710 --> 00:43:37,500
around the world

880
00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:39,720
anyway he strongly yeah back to Easter

881
00:43:44,570 --> 00:43:42,300
are we ever going to be able to decipher

882
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:44,580
the writing there and try to figure out

883
00:43:50,810 --> 00:43:47,610
the geniality behind it that's exactly

884
00:43:52,670 --> 00:43:50,820
it and you and I I don't believe I've

885
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:52,680
actually talked about this but the

886
00:43:58,610 --> 00:43:54,930
writing is known as a wrong go wrong go

887
00:44:01,720 --> 00:43:58,620
script it is a series of what people are

888
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:01,730
called hieroglyphs that type of thing

889
00:44:08,420 --> 00:44:05,970
but what it actually is and this is

890
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:08,430
something I give credit where credit is

891
00:44:16,420 --> 00:44:08,960
due

892
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:16,430
Katie Katie really first saw this and

893
00:44:27,260 --> 00:44:21,810
she's the of shock-and-awe gate what she

894
00:44:30,260 --> 00:44:27,270
notice is that these hieroglyphs as

895
00:44:32,390 --> 00:44:30,270
people call it look a lot like in fact

896
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:32,400
they're virtually identical to many of

897
00:44:38,540 --> 00:44:35,610
the petroglyphs that dr. anthony peratt

898
00:44:41,150 --> 00:44:38,550
has been studying around the world from

899
00:44:43,790 --> 00:44:41,160
the end of the last ice age which he

900
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:43,800
pieced together initially were what

901
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,730
people were seeing in the sky during a

902
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:49,680
major solar outbursts because when you

903
00:44:56,430 --> 00:44:51,910
have a major solar outbursts

904
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:56,440
you get things in the sky that look like

905
00:45:01,380 --> 00:44:59,170
serve the aurora borealis right much

906
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:01,390
more specific much more diagnostic

907
00:45:06,359 --> 00:45:03,250
because you're talking very high

908
00:45:09,569 --> 00:45:06,369
energies essentially charged particles

909
00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:09,579
electrons protons etc entering the

910
00:45:14,099 --> 00:45:11,500
magnetosphere entering the upper

911
00:45:16,620 --> 00:45:14,109
atmosphere driving down to earth and

912
00:45:18,450 --> 00:45:16,630
this is what caused the end of the last

913
00:45:21,839 --> 00:45:18,460
ice age is solar outbursts of the

914
00:45:24,990 --> 00:45:21,849
phenomena associated with it the

915
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:25,000
petroglyphs from 9700 BC and there

916
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:28,380
abouts gobekli tepe time record this

917
00:45:34,620 --> 00:45:31,890
around the world in over 130 countries

918
00:45:37,260 --> 00:45:34,630
including on Easter Island and the

919
00:45:40,109 --> 00:45:37,270
rongorongo script and this is what Katie

920
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:40,119
put together records the same thing is

921
00:45:46,289 --> 00:45:43,690
derived from the same event so Easter

922
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,299
Island is super important for the bigger

923
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:48,880
picture it has been sorely

924
00:45:54,990 --> 00:45:52,960
underestimated write an opinion by many

925
00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:55,000
people not just the classical

926
00:45:59,609 --> 00:45:56,829
archaeologist and I was mentioning

927
00:46:02,760 --> 00:45:59,619
before that the classical archaeologists

928
00:46:05,490 --> 00:46:02,770
have dated Easter on to a very recent

929
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:05,500
period well within the last two thousand

930
00:46:10,769 --> 00:46:07,750
years I'm convinced that some of these

931
00:46:13,890 --> 00:46:10,779
heads some of these torsos they have I'm

932
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:13,900
a geologist as you know right and they

933
00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:16,960
have been covered up silted over if you

934
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:18,220
would are cement

935
00:46:24,059 --> 00:46:21,190
said cemetery deposits have filled in

936
00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:24,069
around them and the evidence does not

937
00:46:31,410 --> 00:46:29,470
indicate its tsunamis or flesh um I can

938
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,420
say flash floods is too small an island

939
00:46:36,089 --> 00:46:33,520
for that but it's not just debris coming

940
00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,099
down the hills and huge amounts over

941
00:46:41,339 --> 00:46:38,319
short periods of time

942
00:46:44,250 --> 00:46:41,349
it is sentiment redeposits building up

943
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:44,260
over time which would indicate much

944
00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:46,089
older age that has already been

945
00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:48,160
estimated or has been estimated in the

946
00:46:53,099 --> 00:46:50,859
past plus easter on was bigger when sea

947
00:46:55,769 --> 00:46:53,109
levels were lower at rare intervals Isis

948
00:46:57,630 --> 00:46:55,779
there's a lot going on when it comes to

949
00:47:00,690 --> 00:46:57,640
that Island are you ready to come out of

950
00:47:02,609 --> 00:47:00,700
the closet again and I did that several

951
00:47:06,870 --> 00:47:02,619
times in KY yes you did

952
00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:06,880
countered by desert we counted five and

953
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:13,859
when the when the heads were originally

954
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:17,920
standing I need to ask you especially as

955
00:47:22,859 --> 00:47:20,079
a geologist were they just sitting flat

956
00:47:25,499 --> 00:47:22,869
on the ground some of them were sitting

957
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:25,509
flat on the ground around what's the

958
00:47:31,130 --> 00:47:27,490
crater where a number of them were

959
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:31,140
carved then others were put on a whose

960
00:47:37,620 --> 00:47:34,660
which are basically ceremonial of you we

961
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:37,630
could use that term platforms around the

962
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:39,730
perimeter of the island I do want to

963
00:47:44,970 --> 00:47:41,410
point out because a lot of people have a

964
00:47:47,099 --> 00:47:44,980
misconception that the heads look out to

965
00:47:50,339 --> 00:47:47,109
the ocean they actually look into the

966
00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:50,349
Ireland in fact they probably look in

967
00:47:57,859 --> 00:47:55,660
and up toward a point in space above the

968
00:48:00,660 --> 00:47:57,869
center of the island more or less

969
00:48:02,430 --> 00:48:00,670
actually looking at the sky looking for

970
00:48:04,799 --> 00:48:02,440
what will come from the sky and the

971
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:04,809
Easter Islanders traditionally say that

972
00:48:11,819 --> 00:48:08,650
its eyes gazing toward the sky but they

973
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:11,829
were set on the platforms in historic

974
00:48:18,299 --> 00:48:15,569
times that is since Easter Island was

975
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:18,309
discovered or rediscovered I like to say

976
00:48:24,989 --> 00:48:22,480
by the Europeans in 1722 most of the

977
00:48:28,099 --> 00:48:24,999
moai on the platforms on the ahoo were

978
00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:28,109
knocked over or were brought down those

979
00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:32,710
near the crater are still standing but

980
00:48:36,569 --> 00:48:35,230
that's understandable because most of

981
00:48:40,979 --> 00:48:36,579
them are buried up to their shoulders

982
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:40,989
our Chin's in sediment now this is where

983
00:48:49,470 --> 00:48:46,480
I want you to give me your honest dating

984
00:48:53,549 --> 00:48:49,480
here for something to go up to its

985
00:48:55,589 --> 00:48:53,559
shoulder that obviously takes time it

986
00:48:57,630 --> 00:48:55,599
takes time and some of these we're

987
00:49:01,529 --> 00:48:57,640
talking you have to understand these

988
00:49:05,069 --> 00:49:01,539
statues are big so we have many many

989
00:49:05,789 --> 00:49:05,079
meters I want to say you know in some

990
00:49:08,759 --> 00:49:05,799
cases

991
00:49:11,489 --> 00:49:08,769
let's do feet 5 meters 18 feet somewhere

992
00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:11,499
in that range of sediment built up some

993
00:49:18,510 --> 00:49:15,580
cases even more this takes a lot of time

994
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:18,520
this is just one line of evidence that

995
00:49:24,990 --> 00:49:21,730
is convincing me that Easter Island goes

996
00:49:27,210 --> 00:49:25,000
back to a much much earlier period well

997
00:49:31,260 --> 00:49:27,220
I need a date I'm not going to let you

998
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:31,270
off away oh you want a date I do I do I

999
00:49:36,270 --> 00:49:33,250
want a date from Robert Schoch since

1000
00:49:39,090 --> 00:49:36,280
since we have the rongorongo script and

1001
00:49:41,790 --> 00:49:39,100
the petroglyphs which apparently point

1002
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:41,800
back to the end of the last ice age the

1003
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:46,450
end of the last ice age is 9700 BC so

1004
00:49:53,150 --> 00:49:49,290
we're talking potentially you know about

1005
00:49:55,650 --> 00:49:53,160
12,000 years ago maybe for the earliest

1006
00:49:59,580 --> 00:49:55,660
colonization are these people being on

1007
00:50:02,490 --> 00:49:59,590
Easter Island so I'm talking an order of

1008
00:50:05,580 --> 00:50:02,500
magnitude greater than conventional

1009
00:50:08,130 --> 00:50:05,590
archaeologists would and yet and dandy

1010
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:08,140
well you realize that mes coming out

1011
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:10,810
again yeah you just came out I and and

1012
00:50:17,790 --> 00:50:14,670
before boats right well if we go with

1013
00:50:20,610 --> 00:50:17,800
historians well available Dorian's but

1014
00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:20,620
I'm convinced that these guys were not

1015
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:24,870
getting around by falling into the ocean

1016
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:28,720
and grabbing onto a log and just you

1017
00:50:34,140 --> 00:50:31,210
know rat hell being thrown around by the

1018
00:50:36,870 --> 00:50:34,150
breeze I think they had boats early on

1019
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:36,880
it has been estimated there's a lot of

1020
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:40,930
suggestions that bottom line let me say

1021
00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:42,610
it this way and you know where I'm

1022
00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:44,500
coming from but maybe not all the

1023
00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:46,480
listeners there was a cycle of

1024
00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:48,670
sophisticated civilization I use the

1025
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:52,150
term cycle of civilization before the

1026
00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:54,690
end of the last ice age before the

1027
00:51:00,750 --> 00:50:57,220
catastrophes the natural catastrophes

1028
00:51:04,170 --> 00:51:00,760
that ended the last ice age in 9700 BC

1029
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:04,180
and these were sophisticated people yes

1030
00:51:07,530 --> 00:51:05,740
there were probably primitives too but

1031
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:07,540
we have primitives quote-unquote

1032
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:11,410
nowadays sure um you know built both in

1033
00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:15,310
out of the technological world but they

1034
00:51:19,350 --> 00:51:16,750
were sophisticated there were

1035
00:51:21,090 --> 00:51:19,360
sophisticated people if they're building

1036
00:51:23,970 --> 00:51:21,100
gobekli tepe which I think we'll get to

1037
00:51:26,850 --> 00:51:23,980
I have no doubt that they could also

1038
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:26,860
have the technology to build very

1039
00:51:33,309 --> 00:51:28,730
seaworthy boats

1040
00:51:36,430 --> 00:51:33,319
Robert if you hadn't met John Anthony

1041
00:51:39,609 --> 00:51:36,440
West and and been exposed to befall and

1042
00:51:42,460 --> 00:51:39,619
then Hancock and and you know the the

1043
00:51:45,609 --> 00:51:42,470
group right if you hadn't been exposed

1044
00:51:47,109 --> 00:51:45,619
to them and you hadn't met John Anthony

1045
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:47,119
west would you have come to the same

1046
00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:50,720
conclusions on your own well the thing

1047
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:51,950
is I probably wouldn't have been

1048
00:51:56,559 --> 00:51:55,250
studying these subjects I mean that's

1049
00:51:58,180 --> 00:51:56,569
not as truth I wouldn't write in

1050
00:52:00,700 --> 00:51:58,190
studying all this I wouldn't have gotten

1051
00:52:04,450 --> 00:52:00,710
into this why I was always interested in

1052
00:52:06,970 --> 00:52:04,460
it since yeah I remember going to

1053
00:52:09,789 --> 00:52:06,980
exhibition of Tutankhamen in Washington

1054
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:09,799
DC which I think I was four years old at

1055
00:52:15,460 --> 00:52:12,530
the time I don't remember a lot of it

1056
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:15,470
but I remember it and my grandmother was

1057
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:18,760
a theosophist and she introduced me to

1058
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:22,160
various ancient cultures and so I had

1059
00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:24,890
interest in all this but would I have

1060
00:52:31,150 --> 00:52:28,940
been actually pursuing it the way I am

1061
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:31,160
now are just reading about a little bit

1062
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:33,650
on the side while doing other things the

1063
00:52:38,829 --> 00:52:35,690
ladder is probably more likely because I

1064
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:38,839
was had a career before John Anthony

1065
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:40,510
West and I don't say that

1066
00:52:45,670 --> 00:52:42,920
disrespectfully but I was a geologist I

1067
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:45,680
still am a geologist and I was just I

1068
00:52:52,359 --> 00:52:48,530
had specialty and Eocene fossil mammals

1069
00:52:54,819 --> 00:52:52,369
and stratigraphy and erosional features

1070
00:52:59,500 --> 00:52:54,829
that you can apply to many things

1071
00:53:01,630 --> 00:52:59,510
besides the Sphinx and I probably would

1072
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:01,640
have had a very different career without

1073
00:53:06,099 --> 00:53:04,130
John Anthony West yeah I talked about

1074
00:53:08,079 --> 00:53:06,109
this in the past and I don't know

1075
00:53:10,270 --> 00:53:08,089
sometimes I think it's great that I met

1076
00:53:13,210 --> 00:53:10,280
him sometimes I say bye what did I get

1077
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:13,220
myself I know right well you wouldn't be

1078
00:53:17,319 --> 00:53:15,710
on this show and we wouldn't have had so

1079
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:17,329
much fun of contacting the day yeah

1080
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,450
exactly I suspect that if I had not met

1081
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,880
John Anthony Weston answer to your

1082
00:53:28,690 --> 00:53:25,280
question I would never been contacting

1083
00:53:31,180 --> 00:53:28,700
the desert I never know you I'd never be

1084
00:53:33,370 --> 00:53:31,190
speaking on your show or other radio

1085
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:33,380
shows or television shows about stuff

1086
00:53:41,710 --> 00:53:36,430
like this I would have been probably a

1087
00:53:42,460 --> 00:53:41,720
academic board geologist your specialty

1088
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:42,470
the classic

1089
00:53:47,290 --> 00:53:44,210
academic thing you get more and more

1090
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:47,300
specialized and you know you're really

1091
00:53:52,359 --> 00:53:50,000
successful when you write these obscure

1092
00:53:54,970 --> 00:53:52,369
scientific papers that only six other

1093
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:54,980
people can read and only three of them

1094
00:54:01,120 --> 00:53:57,890
really want to read or care about okay

1095
00:54:04,060 --> 00:54:01,130
now it's and and and this is what I

1096
00:54:06,670 --> 00:54:04,070
think is so significant here I know that

1097
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:06,680
you're not the only professional

1098
00:54:13,690 --> 00:54:10,250
academic that has an open mind to these

1099
00:54:17,020 --> 00:54:13,700
subjects and they are all exposed to the

1100
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:17,030
same characters out there why isn't

1101
00:54:24,339 --> 00:54:20,720
there more of you pushing this this rock

1102
00:54:27,130 --> 00:54:24,349
uphill why isn't there more of me

1103
00:54:31,660 --> 00:54:27,140
because I'm crazy enough to actually do

1104
00:54:38,770 --> 00:54:31,670
this I guess and and risk vilification

1105
00:54:41,650 --> 00:54:38,780
by my academic peers who you know as I

1106
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:41,660
say most people in academia are not risk

1107
00:54:48,010 --> 00:54:43,910
takers if you would right they're not

1108
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,020
going to go out on limb the way to have

1109
00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:50,480
a nice safe career and I've been told

1110
00:54:55,930 --> 00:54:53,140
this bluntly by some my fellow

1111
00:55:00,670 --> 00:54:55,940
colleagues especially in my earlier days

1112
00:55:02,770 --> 00:55:00,680
when you know elder academics elder

1113
00:55:04,810 --> 00:55:02,780
professors were trying to mentor that

1114
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:04,820
type of thing right and that's you know

1115
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,280
you you go with the status quo you make

1116
00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:09,440
a little bit of I won't even call it

1117
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:11,990
discoveries you just you just work

1118
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:14,240
within the paradigm and you extend it a

1119
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:17,510
little bit and you confirm what everyone

1120
00:55:22,329 --> 00:55:19,730
else already knows but that's important

1121
00:55:24,910 --> 00:55:22,339
and you make a few little minor tweaks

1122
00:55:27,010 --> 00:55:24,920
and everything's great and you write

1123
00:55:29,589 --> 00:55:27,020
these academic papers and you get

1124
00:55:31,980 --> 00:55:29,599
promoted and you get your raises and

1125
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:31,990
then you eventually die

1126
00:55:38,530 --> 00:55:35,930
boring somehow it's it could be a little

1127
00:55:40,329 --> 00:55:38,540
boring I mean academic academia is a

1128
00:55:43,540 --> 00:55:40,339
little boring then you get guys and I

1129
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:43,550
hate to keep harping on him and I'm not

1130
00:55:46,450 --> 00:55:45,410
trying to compare myself to him but he's

1131
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:46,460
a good analogy

1132
00:55:53,020 --> 00:55:49,250
some people say I've said this about me

1133
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:53,030
you get guys like Galileo who who bucked

1134
00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:57,010
the status Crow's I can't talk

1135
00:56:04,660 --> 00:56:01,760
it's um you know he went out on limbs he

1136
00:56:07,630 --> 00:56:04,670
said a bunch of other guys were wrong

1137
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:07,640
with their Aristotelian mechanics and he

1138
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:09,530
had a better way of looking at things he

1139
00:56:14,260 --> 00:56:11,090
said a bunch of guys were wrong with

1140
00:56:16,410 --> 00:56:14,270
their Ptolemaic universe where the earth

1141
00:56:18,970 --> 00:56:16,420
way around the Sun and he said this oh

1142
00:56:21,580 --> 00:56:18,980
no I'm sorry what did I say he where the

1143
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:21,590
Sun goes around the earth i'ma have

1144
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:23,210
myself and he said the earth goes around

1145
00:56:29,230 --> 00:56:25,610
the Sun and what they get for it he got

1146
00:56:31,630 --> 00:56:29,240
fame he got infamy and ultimately he was

1147
00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:31,640
put under house arrest for the rest of

1148
00:56:37,210 --> 00:56:34,070
his life for the rest of his life and as

1149
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:37,220
I understand it the only reason he

1150
00:56:43,210 --> 00:56:39,710
wasn't executed to be blunt is because

1151
00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:43,220
the Pope before he was Pope had been a

1152
00:56:47,950 --> 00:56:45,740
personal friend of Galileo's and that's

1153
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:47,960
it and that's really the truth here yeah

1154
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:50,870
yeah I mean house arrest was actually a

1155
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:52,490
good thing in the sense that's probably

1156
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,650
being that's probably much better than

1157
00:56:59,050 --> 00:56:56,720
being burnt at the stake as Bruno was

1158
00:57:00,760 --> 00:56:59,060
yeah I often wonder how many how many

1159
00:57:02,890 --> 00:57:00,770
academics are out there they're looking

1160
00:57:05,290 --> 00:57:02,900
at that you know they probably have one

1161
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:05,300
of Hancock's books at home right they've

1162
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:09,610
seen your video with a jaws and and

1163
00:57:14,890 --> 00:57:12,290
Charlie I might look at helmet right

1164
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:14,900
right that but but and they know that

1165
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:17,210
the evidence is there and they probably

1166
00:57:20,770 --> 00:57:19,130
enjoy it but they're never going to

1167
00:57:22,090 --> 00:57:20,780
stick their neck out it's fastened

1168
00:57:26,650 --> 00:57:22,100
actively they're not going to stick

1169
00:57:29,260 --> 00:57:26,660
their neck out and I can use a different

1170
00:57:32,170 --> 00:57:29,270
analogy what does it let the nap gee

1171
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:32,180
I'll give you a real example and this is

1172
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:34,490
not quite the same thing as what we're

1173
00:57:39,790 --> 00:57:36,890
talking about actually I've had some

1174
00:57:42,430 --> 00:57:39,800
academics say to me bluntly and they

1175
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:42,440
always couch it in weird terms but in

1176
00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:45,730
the usually there once they're more

1177
00:57:49,450 --> 00:57:47,870
sociology his story is that type of

1178
00:57:51,790 --> 00:57:49,460
thing but I can think of several who've

1179
00:57:54,490 --> 00:57:51,800
said to me in the backhauls that I'm

1180
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:54,500
right or at least I think I'm right etc

1181
00:57:57,570 --> 00:57:55,730
but they're not about to say that

1182
00:58:00,600 --> 00:57:57,580
publicly

1183
00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:00,610
so I've done that and I was going to say

1184
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:03,160
the whole phenomena of parapsychology

1185
00:58:08,220 --> 00:58:06,090
and psychic phenomena I'm switching

1186
00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:08,230
subjects just a little bit to make a

1187
00:58:14,420 --> 00:58:11,470
point with that topic which is just as

1188
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:14,430
controversial if not more controversial

1189
00:58:20,370 --> 00:58:17,710
among some people I have literally had

1190
00:58:25,070 --> 00:58:20,380
people who will poopoo that and put

1191
00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:25,080
things down and put me down in meetings

1192
00:58:31,620 --> 00:58:28,060
among other faculty members then the

1193
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:31,630
next thing you know you know that two

1194
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:34,450
days later they happen to run into me

1195
00:58:38,850 --> 00:58:37,090
quietly in the back hall and no one is

1196
00:58:42,270 --> 00:58:38,860
there and don't tell me about their

1197
00:58:44,370 --> 00:58:42,280
personal experiences firsthand but of

1198
00:58:46,620 --> 00:58:44,380
course this doesn't count for anything

1199
00:58:48,510 --> 00:58:46,630
and they would deny it if anyone ever

1200
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:48,520
mentioned it publicly yeah that's

1201
00:58:52,530 --> 00:58:50,950
fascinating they would come up we got to

1202
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:52,540
take a break right here Robert

1203
00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:54,460
but you know for them to come up and go

1204
00:58:58,650 --> 00:58:56,590
you know what man my grandmother came

1205
00:59:02,640 --> 00:58:58,660
and spoke to me in my bedroom after she

1206
00:59:04,770 --> 00:59:02,650
died like that exactly we are guests

1207
00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:04,780
tonight dr. Robert Schoch it's our

1208
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:08,140
gobekli tepe shock and awe special this

1209
00:59:12,460 --> 00:59:09,730
is paid to Blackmore's Robert right

1210
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:12,470
after this break stay with us

1211
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:33,359
this is Said's black with Jimmy Church

1212
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:35,849
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00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:41,290
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01:00:02,190 --> 01:00:00,640
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Kebbell you're listening to Jimmy Church

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1250
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body just doesn't work as well as it

1251
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:36,059
used to so I like to keep fit as

1252
01:01:40,010 --> 01:01:37,920
possible by hitting the gym a few times

1253
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a week recently I started having a

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nagging bicep pain and it got so bad I

1255
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couldn't even lift the weights when I

1256
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was complaining about it to a friend he

1257
01:01:50,359 --> 01:01:48,270
told me about angio prim he said

1258
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:50,369
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1261
01:01:59,270 --> 01:01:56,700
know after just one week of taking angio

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report and you're listening to Jimmy

1277
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:36,359
church on fade to black across the globe

1278
01:02:41,650 --> 01:02:38,250
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01:02:55,430 --> 01:02:41,660
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1281
01:03:06,260 --> 01:03:03,980
welcome back fade to black on the game

1282
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:06,270
changer Network in kg RA the planet

1283
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:08,010
America meters our guest tonight dr.

1284
01:03:14,450 --> 01:03:10,890
Robert M shock a little shock and awe

1285
01:03:18,220 --> 01:03:14,460
and gobekli tepe tonight and let's get

1286
01:03:20,380 --> 01:03:18,230
straight back to it Robert we we

1287
01:03:24,050 --> 01:03:20,390
participated in one of the most

1288
01:03:26,150 --> 01:03:24,060
spectacular panels that I have been

1289
01:03:28,310 --> 01:03:26,160
involved with in recent memory was just

1290
01:03:30,470 --> 01:03:28,320
awesome and the brain power that was on

1291
01:03:32,990 --> 01:03:30,480
that panel was extraordinary and I took

1292
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:33,000
a poll that night I started off the

1293
01:03:40,220 --> 01:03:38,010
panel to see where everybody's head will

1294
01:03:40,940 --> 01:03:40,230
go back like that b1 okay so let's just

1295
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:40,950
go with that

1296
01:03:49,340 --> 01:03:46,110
and let I need to clarify or get

1297
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:49,350
something cleared up here every time I

1298
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:51,570
discuss gobekli tepe on the show we

1299
01:03:56,990 --> 01:03:53,970
discussed dating I get a flood of email

1300
01:03:59,600 --> 01:03:57,000
that says gobekli tepe is 5,000 years

1301
01:04:02,000 --> 01:03:59,610
old at 6,000 years old it's not it's at

1302
01:04:05,330 --> 01:04:02,010
most it's you know I get all of this and

1303
01:04:07,210 --> 01:04:05,340
then I have other researchers out there

1304
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:07,220
that are pushing this date back to even

1305
01:04:17,180 --> 01:04:14,010
12,000 BC 12,500 BC today where are you

1306
01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:17,190
on the dating of Gobekli Tepe well okay

1307
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:19,470
so this is a very very good point

1308
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:24,480
because gobekli tepe is not a single

1309
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:28,710
isolated little teeny spot of a site

1310
01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:32,130
that has one specific date to it Gobekli

1311
01:04:37,940 --> 01:04:35,220
Tepe is actually a huge complex most of

1312
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:37,950
which has not been uncovered as I think

1313
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:40,170
most of you and most of your listeners

1314
01:04:46,070 --> 01:04:43,890
know it is composed primarily of rings

1315
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:46,080
of stone stone circles if you would

1316
01:04:51,260 --> 01:04:49,050
serve Stonehenge like but much more

1317
01:04:53,630 --> 01:04:51,270
ornately carved I mean ornately carved

1318
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:53,640
stone and just not ornately carved at

1319
01:04:59,090 --> 01:04:56,160
all essentially not carved they're just

1320
01:05:02,450 --> 01:04:59,100
big chunky stones at Stonehenge so the

1321
01:05:05,150 --> 01:05:02,460
main rings of Gobekli Tepe the main

1322
01:05:08,780 --> 01:05:05,160
enclosures are what most people are

1323
01:05:10,820 --> 01:05:08,790
thinking about I am absolutely convinced

1324
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:10,830
based on the evidence based on the

1325
01:05:14,250 --> 01:05:12,720
Stratego fee based on the radiocarbon

1326
01:05:17,370 --> 01:05:14,260
dating base

1327
01:05:20,970 --> 01:05:17,380
on several different stages without all

1328
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:20,980
stages of construction and dates that go

1329
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:23,050
with those based on radio carbon and

1330
01:05:29,370 --> 01:05:25,690
other analysis including various isotope

1331
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:29,380
analysis of the environmental conditions

1332
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:32,310
when they were formed that gobekli tepe

1333
01:05:36,870 --> 01:05:34,810
straddles the end of the last ice age

1334
01:05:41,490 --> 01:05:36,880
the end of the last ice age is

1335
01:05:43,650 --> 01:05:41,500
specifically 9700 BC so it straddles

1336
01:05:48,510 --> 01:05:43,660
that and when I say that it straddles

1337
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:48,520
that parts of it are older than 9700 BC

1338
01:05:54,810 --> 01:05:52,290
but let's just use for sake of argument

1339
01:05:58,710 --> 01:05:54,820
10,000 BC just because it's easier to

1340
01:06:05,730 --> 01:05:58,720
remember right so 1000 BC is 12,000

1341
01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:05,740
years ago I am confident that parts of

1342
01:06:11,820 --> 01:06:07,600
gobekli tepe they're just being

1343
01:06:14,250 --> 01:06:11,830
uncovered over B but or which Klaus

1344
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:14,260
Schmidt who is now deceased began to

1345
01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:17,650
uncover essentially higher up on the

1346
01:06:22,170 --> 01:06:19,390
hill if you would I mean literally I'm

1347
01:06:24,450 --> 01:06:22,180
talking physically probably go back at

1348
01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:24,460
least a couple of thousand years earlier

1349
01:06:29,099 --> 01:06:26,470
than that so we're talking maybe

1350
01:06:32,730 --> 01:06:29,109
fourteen thousand plus years ago he

1351
01:06:35,010 --> 01:06:32,740
himself thought this was the case as I

1352
01:06:37,650 --> 01:06:35,020
understood him when he was speculating

1353
01:06:40,859 --> 01:06:37,660
about so that goes back to maybe 12,000

1354
01:06:44,609 --> 01:06:40,869
BC other portions of Gobekli Tepe are

1355
01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:44,619
younger because after the collapse of

1356
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:47,020
the culture after the collapse of the

1357
01:06:51,390 --> 01:06:49,090
civilization to end the blessed Ice Age

1358
01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:51,400
people came back there they try to

1359
01:06:56,670 --> 01:06:54,580
rebuild parts of it before they covered

1360
01:07:00,630 --> 01:06:56,680
it over entirely so you see these

1361
01:07:03,630 --> 01:07:00,640
smaller little enclosures that were

1362
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:03,640
later so the entire site has

1363
01:07:10,830 --> 01:07:08,160
representation if you would in time over

1364
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:10,840
approximate to maybe 4,000 years that

1365
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:14,310
we're aware of straddling on both sides

1366
01:07:21,030 --> 01:07:17,530
9700 BC that pivotal date for the end of

1367
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:21,040
the last ice age and there's that's a

1368
01:07:25,590 --> 01:07:23,710
very critically important and we're

1369
01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:25,600
going to come back to that we're going

1370
01:07:30,510 --> 01:07:27,550
to need to be addressed but there's

1371
01:07:32,820 --> 01:07:30,520
another point that I need to make clear

1372
01:07:35,090 --> 01:07:32,830
not only to this audience but to future

1373
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:35,100
listeners of this show in the archives

1374
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:39,850
just because it is in Turkey modern-day

1375
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:42,610
Turkey today does not make it

1376
01:07:49,230 --> 01:07:46,510
Turkish oh absolutely absolutely made

1377
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:49,240
anyway yeah this is a real problem with

1378
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:51,760
modern boundaries and people thinking

1379
01:07:56,370 --> 01:07:52,890
about

1380
01:07:59,730 --> 01:07:56,380
whether some things this are that ethnic

1381
01:08:02,160 --> 01:07:59,740
group because modern boundaries for

1382
01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:02,170
countries change and where you're going

1383
01:08:06,510 --> 01:08:04,630
to say well if the Turkish boundary

1384
01:08:08,490 --> 01:08:06,520
turkish-syrian boundary because it's

1385
01:08:10,860 --> 01:08:08,500
very close to the Syrian border when

1386
01:08:12,930 --> 01:08:10,870
that changes oh it becomes Turkish and

1387
01:08:16,110 --> 01:08:12,940
that's not Turkish or Syrian are not

1388
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:16,120
Syrian etc and a lot of these moderate

1389
01:08:21,990 --> 01:08:17,770
groups I can use Egypt is another

1390
01:08:24,530 --> 01:08:22,000
classic example they were invaded they

1391
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:24,540
were taken over by ethnic groups

1392
01:08:31,980 --> 01:08:28,330
relatively recently Egypt in the seventh

1393
01:08:34,349 --> 01:08:31,990
century or so by Arabs right we're not

1394
01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:34,359
native they're not the native Egyptians

1395
01:08:42,059 --> 01:08:37,870
the same in Turkey and you have of

1396
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:42,069
course the much older ethnic elements

1397
01:08:49,110 --> 01:08:46,330
they're more in terms of physical

1398
01:08:51,260 --> 01:08:49,120
geography because I come from a geology

1399
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:51,270
physical geography anthropology

1400
01:08:58,579 --> 01:08:55,120
ethnography background Quebec Lee Cafe

1401
01:09:03,300 --> 01:08:58,589
is in Mesopotamia in northern

1402
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:03,310
Mesopotamia without putting any concept

1403
01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:06,130
of who the ethnicities are it's in

1404
01:09:13,170 --> 01:09:08,350
Mesopotamia between the Tigris and

1405
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:13,180
Euphrates rivers so now we are dealing

1406
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:16,960
with as we go back the last I mean the

1407
01:09:21,870 --> 01:09:18,970
oldest part of that region you could

1408
01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:21,880
call it the Armenian highlands yes yes

1409
01:09:28,079 --> 01:09:24,540
yes because Armenians were there

1410
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:28,089
historically for a very very long period

1411
01:09:32,910 --> 01:09:30,010
of time and this is something I think

1412
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:32,920
you're gay into it's been claimed to be

1413
01:09:39,270 --> 01:09:36,250
Armenian right right I have no problem

1414
01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,280
with that honestly yeah and when you're

1415
01:09:44,970 --> 01:09:41,440
talking 12,000 years ago

1416
01:09:46,530 --> 01:09:44,980
I mean who is to say what what how were

1417
01:09:50,249 --> 01:09:46,540
they thinking of themselves

1418
01:09:52,769 --> 01:09:50,259
I don't really know except in terms of

1419
01:09:56,459 --> 01:09:52,779
what they left us in terms of sculptures

1420
01:10:01,650 --> 01:09:56,469
and carvings and the structures that are

1421
01:10:03,090 --> 01:10:01,660
oriented to these stars I am and so if

1422
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:03,100
you're going to come out of the closet

1423
01:10:07,170 --> 01:10:05,530
for number six here or number seven okay

1424
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:07,180
you were going to and you were going to

1425
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:10,330
discuss an ancient civilization that is

1426
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:13,330
responsible for gobekli tepe and her

1427
01:10:17,610 --> 01:10:15,489
famine you know we can we can ago that I

1428
01:10:18,180 --> 01:10:17,620
with them you're reading my mind or vice

1429
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:18,190
versa

1430
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:24,370
if a man is incredible and he he is he

1431
01:10:30,570 --> 01:10:27,250
looks like a he looks ultra-modern in

1432
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,580
many ways with some kind of maybe close

1433
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:33,040
fitting suit or you know whatever that

1434
01:10:37,110 --> 01:10:35,500
collar is around his head and he's

1435
01:10:39,979 --> 01:10:37,120
beautifully carved

1436
01:10:44,189 --> 01:10:39,989
he's got interestingly the hands down

1437
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:44,199
into the navel region our servers you

1438
01:10:48,750 --> 01:10:46,330
place a groin you can you can beautiful

1439
01:10:51,390 --> 01:10:48,760
and well no I was going to make another

1440
01:10:53,550 --> 01:10:51,400
point growing or naval Regis fred is

1441
01:10:55,290 --> 01:10:53,560
very similar to something we talked

1442
01:10:57,950 --> 01:10:55,300
about before the break that is the

1443
01:11:01,260 --> 01:10:57,960
statues of easter island yes and

1444
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:01,270
amazingly enough katie and i have been

1445
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:04,000
finding a lot of similarities and other

1446
01:11:08,910 --> 01:11:08,290
people noted this also between gobekli

1447
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:08,920
tepe

1448
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:12,820
and that very early period and things on

1449
01:11:17,970 --> 01:11:14,800
easter island

1450
01:11:20,850 --> 01:11:17,980
I collect graphic similarities which of

1451
01:11:25,050 --> 01:11:20,860
course by conventional archaeological

1452
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:25,060
historical standard ship is crazy and

1453
01:11:30,860 --> 01:11:27,489
one the mill the Pacific remote and

1454
01:11:33,570 --> 01:11:30,870
isolated the other is in modern

1455
01:11:35,729 --> 01:11:33,580
southeastern Turkey and and when you

1456
01:11:37,950 --> 01:11:35,739
look at going back to Easter Island and

1457
01:11:40,590 --> 01:11:37,960
you look at their script their language

1458
01:11:42,890 --> 01:11:40,600
it's similar to what is in Pakistan

1459
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:42,900
which is like ten thousand miles in

1460
01:11:51,270 --> 01:11:46,330
Pakistan and the indus valley script but

1461
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:51,280
this again comes to my point which is

1462
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:54,489
that these are from a common source and

1463
01:11:57,870 --> 01:11:55,210
i believe they're

1464
01:12:01,760 --> 01:11:57,880
common source and I was mentioning

1465
01:12:04,980 --> 01:12:01,770
before the break the petroglyphs that

1466
01:12:07,940 --> 01:12:04,990
dr. anthony peratt of los alamos has

1467
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:07,950
noted around the world with died

1468
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:10,480
diagnostic shapes they look sort of like

1469
01:12:16,230 --> 01:12:12,640
stick figure men some of them some of

1470
01:12:18,930 --> 01:12:16,240
them look like Birdman or bird headed

1471
01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:18,940
and then these are motifs you see around

1472
01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:21,580
the world at the very ancient at this

1473
01:12:29,370 --> 01:12:25,540
very ancient time which derived based

1474
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:29,380
again on working this all out from what

1475
01:12:35,070 --> 01:12:32,170
people would see literally in the sky

1476
01:12:38,370 --> 01:12:35,080
what are known as electrical discharges

1477
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:38,380
our plasma configurations at the end of

1478
01:12:43,230 --> 01:12:40,510
the last ice age when there was this

1479
01:12:45,270 --> 01:12:43,240
huge solar outburst or series of solar

1480
01:12:48,690 --> 01:12:45,280
outbursts that ended the last ice age

1481
01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:48,700
and occurring all around the world too

1482
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:51,280
as well I mean exactly exactly because

1483
01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:54,640
Herat and his team his group have

1484
01:13:00,030 --> 01:12:58,090
actually found these in a over a hundred

1485
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:00,040
and thirty different countries around

1486
01:13:06,450 --> 01:13:03,370
the world engraved on rocks scratched on

1487
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:06,460
stone on whether nose petroglyphs

1488
01:13:15,930 --> 01:13:09,850
we now have them on the Ron go Ron go

1489
01:13:18,270 --> 01:13:15,940
script as my awe inspired wife Katie to

1490
01:13:21,060 --> 01:13:18,280
get back to the shocking off yes first

1491
01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:21,070
pointed out no you know and this is an

1492
01:13:27,090 --> 01:13:23,350
this is an important discovery our this

1493
01:13:31,530 --> 01:13:27,100
is an important set of data and it all

1494
01:13:34,230 --> 01:13:31,540
points to one conclusion that we had

1495
01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:34,240
this early round of civilizations early

1496
01:13:39,390 --> 01:13:37,150
cycle of civilization best represent by

1497
01:13:41,430 --> 01:13:39,400
Quebec late Fe but let's not forget

1498
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:41,440
about the Great Sphinx in Egypt where it

1499
01:13:46,230 --> 01:13:44,410
all started with my work reading the

1500
01:13:48,990 --> 01:13:46,240
Sphinx and with John Anthony West

1501
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:49,000
pulling me to Egypt to get me to look at

1502
01:13:55,950 --> 01:13:51,850
geologically all of this points to this

1503
01:13:59,580 --> 01:13:55,960
early civilization that was decimated

1504
01:14:01,350 --> 01:13:59,590
9700 BC and Quebec Li Tempe because I

1505
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:01,360
want to get back to Quebec lead update

1506
01:14:09,359 --> 01:14:06,640
is really pivotal because we see

1507
01:14:11,729 --> 01:14:09,369
evidence of the decimation

1508
01:14:14,899 --> 01:14:11,739
of the catastrophe we have pillars that

1509
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:14,909
were knocked over and reassembled and

1510
01:14:22,890 --> 01:14:20,050
based on the radiocarbon dating I am

1511
01:14:25,140 --> 01:14:22,900
convinced that this was happening right

1512
01:14:28,530 --> 01:14:25,150
at the end of the last ice age that all

1513
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:28,540
the data lines up to 9700 BC that they

1514
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:30,730
could Beckley tempeh people there was a

1515
01:14:36,510 --> 01:14:32,610
generation there that actually

1516
01:14:38,820 --> 01:14:36,520
experienced this destructive force of

1517
01:14:42,300 --> 01:14:38,830
nature the solar outburst and all the

1518
01:14:45,359 --> 01:14:42,310
ramifications at Quebec light up a and

1519
01:14:47,580 --> 01:14:45,369
it appears to be graphically represented

1520
01:14:49,620 --> 01:14:47,590
there too as well and I think that they

1521
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:49,630
were trying to send a message

1522
01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,210
do you hopeful do you think that they

1523
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:54,400
deliberately buried it to preserve that

1524
01:14:59,280 --> 01:14:56,290
message for the future I think they may

1525
01:15:03,439 --> 01:14:59,290
well have because what we see is not

1526
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:03,449
simply that they buried it in serve I

1527
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,360
was a gay pissed escapism fright that

1528
01:15:10,229 --> 01:15:09,520
there were pillars that were knocked

1529
01:15:12,570 --> 01:15:10,239
over

1530
01:15:15,390 --> 01:15:12,580
they were reassembled hastily they were

1531
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:15,400
put back into position back into

1532
01:15:21,629 --> 01:15:18,730
orientation they hastily built rough

1533
01:15:25,169 --> 01:15:21,639
stone walls to sort of protect it to

1534
01:15:27,390 --> 01:15:25,179
keep the pillars standing upright maybe

1535
01:15:30,740 --> 01:15:27,400
is they were trying to as a last-ditch

1536
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:30,750
effort trying to hold it together

1537
01:15:35,010 --> 01:15:33,340
ultimately perhaps things got so bad

1538
01:15:37,370 --> 01:15:35,020
they said well we've just got to

1539
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:37,380
preserve it and they filled it in

1540
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:39,280
intentionally and there's no question

1541
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:41,590
that they filled it in intentionally

1542
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:44,710
that this was purposeful even the

1543
01:15:49,379 --> 01:15:47,170
classical archaeologists agree to that

1544
01:15:53,700 --> 01:15:49,389
they disagree as to why for the

1545
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:53,710
classical archaeologists and Krauss

1546
01:15:57,870 --> 01:15:55,570
Schmidt can't really speak to it anymore

1547
01:16:00,000 --> 01:15:57,880
I don't think he was is it I don't

1548
01:16:02,399 --> 01:16:00,010
believe he was as extremist some of the

1549
01:16:05,070 --> 01:16:02,409
classical archaeologists who essentially

1550
01:16:08,010 --> 01:16:05,080
said they built it for and I use the

1551
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:08,020
term that we were told in Easter Island

1552
01:16:13,229 --> 01:16:10,570
for the moai they were they built it for

1553
01:16:15,330 --> 01:16:13,239
quote busywork unquote and then filled

1554
01:16:19,310 --> 01:16:15,340
it in for busy work you know just to

1555
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:19,320
keep people keep people distracted

1556
01:16:23,129 --> 01:16:21,250
distracted yeah exactly

1557
01:16:25,500 --> 01:16:23,139
and actually the evidence does

1558
01:16:29,330 --> 01:16:25,510
to indicate that what I look at is

1559
01:16:34,679 --> 01:16:29,340
geologists this was not they didn't just

1560
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,689
build one set of stone circles and then

1561
01:16:38,819 --> 01:16:36,880
filled in and as soon as they had

1562
01:16:41,339 --> 01:16:38,829
finished it and then build another one

1563
01:16:43,649 --> 01:16:41,349
and filled it in that's not the case at

1564
01:16:45,750 --> 01:16:43,659
all you can actually look at some of the

1565
01:16:48,629 --> 01:16:45,760
stones some of the stones were weathered

1566
01:16:50,969 --> 01:16:48,639
well before the whole thing was covered

1567
01:16:55,020 --> 01:16:50,979
over being weathered fairly intensely

1568
01:16:58,500 --> 01:16:55,030
other ones were reworked we engrave to a

1569
01:17:01,020 --> 01:16:58,510
certain extent even at the end of his

1570
01:17:03,270 --> 01:17:01,030
career before he died prematurely Crosse

1571
01:17:05,939 --> 01:17:03,280
Schmidt was pointing this out so this

1572
01:17:08,839 --> 01:17:05,949
was a very active site but site that was

1573
01:17:13,969 --> 01:17:08,849
hit by the catastrophe catastrophe of

1574
01:17:16,739 --> 01:17:13,979
9700 BC and then they were scuttling to

1575
01:17:19,259 --> 01:17:16,749
rebuild it quickly or to get things back

1576
01:17:21,179 --> 01:17:19,269
into position before I don't want to say

1577
01:17:23,219 --> 01:17:21,189
they gave up but they realized it was

1578
01:17:26,129 --> 01:17:23,229
overwhelming and they covered it over

1579
01:17:28,830 --> 01:17:26,139
purposefully to me to preserve it for us

1580
01:17:30,750 --> 01:17:28,840
are for future generations or maybe they

1581
01:17:33,330 --> 01:17:30,760
thought they were going to go back to it

1582
01:17:36,209 --> 01:17:33,340
and uncover it again but never got to it

1583
01:17:38,429 --> 01:17:36,219
I think we got away from the question

1584
01:17:41,429 --> 01:17:38,439
that I wanted to you know kind of pin

1585
01:17:43,379 --> 01:17:41,439
you against the wall on which is what do

1586
01:17:46,109 --> 01:17:43,389
you think builted I mean what ancient

1587
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:46,119
civilization was responsible here well I

1588
01:17:52,319 --> 01:17:49,679
know who built it no I was joking

1589
01:17:54,810 --> 01:17:52,329
governor who built it I actually have

1590
01:17:56,879 --> 01:17:54,820
very little clue and I think no one

1591
01:17:59,639 --> 01:17:56,889
really has any clue yeah people will

1592
01:18:01,770 --> 01:17:59,649
tell you this or that but there's

1593
01:18:04,169 --> 01:18:01,780
something in science or at least certain

1594
01:18:06,089 --> 01:18:04,179
aspects of science when someone is too

1595
01:18:07,469 --> 01:18:06,099
definitive and certain you know that

1596
01:18:10,709 --> 01:18:07,479
they really don't have a clue they're

1597
01:18:12,929 --> 01:18:10,719
just saying that right oh no I'm serious

1598
01:18:15,089 --> 01:18:12,939
about the high money sirs to really know

1599
01:18:18,149 --> 01:18:15,099
who built it we don't know if they

1600
01:18:20,489 --> 01:18:18,159
migrated from elsewhere and then we're

1601
01:18:24,060 --> 01:18:20,499
working there if they migrated from

1602
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:24,070
elsewhere I believe they arrived several

1603
01:18:29,879 --> 01:18:27,489
thousand years earlier than the end of

1604
01:18:32,370 --> 01:18:29,889
the last ice age what we see at the very

1605
01:18:35,140 --> 01:18:32,380
end is I don't wanna say well it's a

1606
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:35,150
culmination before the

1607
01:18:42,729 --> 01:18:40,250
the catastrophe it certainly took time

1608
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:42,739
to build up to that we see that a good

1609
01:18:47,589 --> 01:18:46,010
back late at day and its enormous sight

1610
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:47,599
and there's a lot of other sites around

1611
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:51,290
there that have either we're just barely

1612
01:18:56,859 --> 01:18:54,170
aware of just scratch the surface on or

1613
01:18:58,959 --> 01:18:56,869
totally uh necks cavae tit so we really

1614
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:58,969
don't know and I think it's at this

1615
01:19:04,990 --> 01:19:02,000
point premature to speculate who they

1616
01:19:07,030 --> 01:19:05,000
were and what does that question mean

1617
01:19:08,979 --> 01:19:07,040
who well I could have could have been

1618
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:08,989
the Kardashians if you think about it

1619
01:19:14,589 --> 01:19:12,170
see again yeah it and there's another

1620
01:19:17,020 --> 01:19:14,599
point here I would love to hear your

1621
01:19:20,169 --> 01:19:17,030
answer on certainly you've been

1622
01:19:22,839 --> 01:19:20,179
vindicated to a point because of your

1623
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,849
dating of the Sphinx going back that far

1624
01:19:26,229 --> 01:19:24,080
and that there couldn't have been a

1625
01:19:28,959 --> 01:19:26,239
culture that sophisticated back and then

1626
01:19:32,290 --> 01:19:28,969
gobekli tepe surfaces and it says to the

1627
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:32,300
world that they had agriculture they had

1628
01:19:36,250 --> 01:19:34,610
community they had some sort of

1629
01:19:38,859 --> 01:19:36,260
government maybe they even had a

1630
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:38,869
religion they certainly had artisans

1631
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:41,449
they knew how to quarry they knew how to

1632
01:19:46,060 --> 01:19:44,210
to carve and move and they had

1633
01:19:48,700 --> 01:19:46,070
organizations so there was a

1634
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:48,710
sophisticated culture back then when

1635
01:19:53,530 --> 01:19:50,960
there wasn't supposed to be yeah I

1636
01:19:55,959 --> 01:19:53,540
called civilization I have no problem

1637
01:19:58,209 --> 01:19:55,969
calling it true civilization it's a it's

1638
01:20:00,970 --> 01:19:58,219
not our civilization as we have today

1639
01:20:04,990 --> 01:20:00,980
but it had all those attributes that

1640
01:20:07,810 --> 01:20:05,000
you're naming and and probably the most

1641
01:20:11,410 --> 01:20:07,820
important thing of all is you had to

1642
01:20:13,930 --> 01:20:11,420
have a leader an organization that was

1643
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:13,940
sophisticated enough to convince the

1644
01:20:20,589 --> 01:20:18,170
good people of pork-belly Hill right

1645
01:20:23,310 --> 01:20:20,599
potbelly go really Hill which is yeah

1646
01:20:26,770 --> 01:20:23,320
the name right cabeza cafe essentially

1647
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:26,780
translates to or navel implies a navel

1648
01:20:33,220 --> 01:20:30,110
implies a birth site and of course one

1649
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:33,230
of the names for Easter Island is the

1650
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:35,840
navel of the world yet interesting isn't

1651
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:39,050
it but they haven't had astronomy they

1652
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:41,360
had very sophisticated astronomy and

1653
01:20:49,069 --> 01:20:45,010
they convinced the people there that

1654
01:20:51,469 --> 01:20:49,079
building that was a good idea

1655
01:20:53,449 --> 01:20:51,479
instead of you know protecting the

1656
01:20:56,329 --> 01:20:53,459
family going out and getting food you

1657
01:20:58,879 --> 01:20:56,339
know hunter-gatherer stuff that we need

1658
01:21:02,599 --> 01:20:58,889
to do this and they did it over a couple

1659
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:02,609
of thousand years it was a major major

1660
01:21:08,270 --> 01:21:05,489
undertaking yeah absolutely but the

1661
01:21:10,099 --> 01:21:08,280
thing is and before we go too far with

1662
01:21:12,949 --> 01:21:10,109
this there's a couple of points I'd like

1663
01:21:15,319 --> 01:21:12,959
to make we don't know the extent of

1664
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:15,329
alcohol to Quebec we tap a people the

1665
01:21:21,369 --> 01:21:18,449
Quebec we tap a culture we have Eartha

1666
01:21:24,770 --> 01:21:21,379
men this life-size statue which is

1667
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:24,780
magnificent it would be I think you know

1668
01:21:29,540 --> 01:21:27,449
some certain sculptures well no

1669
01:21:32,419 --> 01:21:29,550
sculptures made today be considered an

1670
01:21:36,349 --> 01:21:32,429
incredible potential masterpiece of

1671
01:21:38,540 --> 01:21:36,359
modern art no doubt and that was not

1672
01:21:40,969 --> 01:21:38,550
found in Quebec we tap a it's called her

1673
01:21:43,699 --> 01:21:40,979
for men because it was found in the

1674
01:21:46,509 --> 01:21:43,709
modern city of Eartha but the modern

1675
01:21:50,089 --> 01:21:46,519
city of Eartha is not a modern city

1676
01:21:52,849 --> 01:21:50,099
wherever they dig when they build new

1677
01:21:56,929 --> 01:21:52,859
roads or new underground parking garages

1678
01:22:01,129 --> 01:21:56,939
etc they often find the strata clay ER

1679
01:22:03,139 --> 01:22:01,139
with human artifacts and remains etc

1680
01:22:06,139 --> 01:22:03,149
that goes back to Quebec light up

1681
01:22:07,849 --> 01:22:06,149
daytime so what is under Eartha but this

1682
01:22:10,419 --> 01:22:07,859
is a city of you know over half a

1683
01:22:14,359 --> 01:22:10,429
million people it's a holy sighted

1684
01:22:17,179 --> 01:22:14,369
Abraham the patriarch Abraham supposedly

1685
01:22:20,290 --> 01:22:17,189
and I don't doubt it but supposedly live

1686
01:22:23,719 --> 01:22:20,300
there you can see the pools of aid

1687
01:22:27,739 --> 01:22:23,729
Abraham you can see the Abraham's cave

1688
01:22:29,899 --> 01:22:27,749
where so um it said that he lived when

1689
01:22:32,959 --> 01:22:29,909
he was young too for protection so

1690
01:22:36,709 --> 01:22:32,969
there's all this traditions a holy site

1691
01:22:40,009 --> 01:22:36,719
for the Abrahamic religions and Quebec

1692
01:22:43,369 --> 01:22:40,019
Lee cafe based on real physical evidence

1693
01:22:47,750 --> 01:22:43,379
I will say is perhaps one of the oldest

1694
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:47,760
inhabited sites on earth going back to

1695
01:22:54,259 --> 01:22:51,689
Quebec Lee Teppei times you know we have

1696
01:22:56,529 --> 01:22:54,269
well my happiness with gobekli tepe we

1697
01:23:02,260 --> 01:22:56,539
have such a small sampling of what was

1698
01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:02,270
potentially a large population

1699
01:23:06,940 --> 01:23:04,280
and the sophisticated culture this

1700
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:06,950
sophisticated civilization and and this

1701
01:23:13,060 --> 01:23:10,250
needs to be just shouted from the

1702
01:23:14,650 --> 01:23:13,070
hilltops you know it but Robert we're

1703
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:14,660
going to head to a break I want you two

1704
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:19,250
to address something that I find müber

1705
01:23:28,210 --> 01:23:23,450
critical back to earth my man dude has

1706
01:23:30,570 --> 01:23:28,220
six fingers now with with nobody's that

1707
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:30,580
dumb right to make a mistake like that

1708
01:23:35,410 --> 01:23:32,810
what is going on there

1709
01:23:39,220 --> 01:23:35,420
does he have six fingers I mean I think

1710
01:23:41,740 --> 01:23:39,230
it actually depends on how how you how

1711
01:23:46,210 --> 01:23:41,750
you count them are well I see five

1712
01:23:48,820 --> 01:23:46,220
hungers and a missing thumbs yeah okay

1713
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:48,830
this is very interesting because that's

1714
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:52,850
something you see on Easter Island also

1715
01:24:01,690 --> 01:23:57,440
and what looked like fingers and lacks

1716
01:24:03,610 --> 01:24:01,700
lack of thumbs and it's a strange

1717
01:24:05,860 --> 01:24:03,620
phenomenon kadian I've talked about this

1718
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:05,870
a lot you don't make a mistake like that

1719
01:24:09,130 --> 01:24:07,730
when you're carved I make mistakes I

1720
01:24:11,620 --> 01:24:09,140
don't think our mistakes and when you

1721
01:24:13,390 --> 01:24:11,630
look at some of the other iconography

1722
01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:13,400
around the world from this remote time

1723
01:24:21,670 --> 01:24:15,560
you do get what seemed to be extra

1724
01:24:24,370 --> 01:24:21,680
fingers and yeah I'm not sure what you

1725
01:24:27,250 --> 01:24:24,380
want me to say I'm not going to tell you

1726
01:24:31,180 --> 01:24:27,260
they're all Elias no you already did

1727
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:31,190
that and there may well be a genetic

1728
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:33,290
condition I'll throw out one thing and

1729
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:36,050
maybe a genetic condition that perhaps

1730
01:24:40,570 --> 01:24:38,510
it was prominent Hmong the more elite I

1731
01:24:43,420 --> 01:24:40,580
don't know I'm speculating at this point

1732
01:24:47,620 --> 01:24:43,430
because we to this date you have people

1733
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:47,630
with some non opposable thumbs

1734
01:24:55,060 --> 01:24:51,110
extra ditches what's known as tri-five

1735
01:24:58,900 --> 01:24:55,070
phalangeal thumbs basically they they're

1736
01:25:01,810 --> 01:24:58,910
more likes fingers than thumbs and we do

1737
01:25:03,370 --> 01:25:01,820
have that to this day yeah and it means

1738
01:25:05,470 --> 01:25:03,380
I just want to make sure I'm not the

1739
01:25:08,770 --> 01:25:05,480
only one noticing something is

1740
01:25:11,740 --> 01:25:08,780
significant enough no no no you're not

1741
01:25:14,740 --> 01:25:11,750
and it takes a lot of time to carve

1742
01:25:17,470 --> 01:25:14,750
something like this a lot of energy

1743
01:25:22,030 --> 01:25:17,480
and and that's the thing about both that

1744
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:22,040
with the hands of Eartha man and the all

1745
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:23,930
the pillars in the carvings the

1746
01:25:28,210 --> 01:25:26,210
sculptures have come out compactly Tempe

1747
01:25:31,870 --> 01:25:28,220
these things known as the totem pole

1748
01:25:33,820 --> 01:25:31,880
there are a number of small carvings

1749
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:33,830
from when I say small of them are still

1750
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:35,690
a couple of feet tall and when you're

1751
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:38,170
carving solid stone those are not

1752
01:25:42,850 --> 01:25:41,090
they're small compared to the big

1753
01:25:46,030 --> 01:25:42,860
pillars but they're still very heavy

1754
01:25:50,260 --> 01:25:46,040
very massive that type of thing and you

1755
01:25:52,030 --> 01:25:50,270
don't do this just willy-nilly - yes not

1756
01:25:55,210 --> 01:25:52,040
graffiti or something like that

1757
01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:55,220
it's very purposeful yeah we need to

1758
01:25:59,800 --> 01:25:57,530
take a break right here I want to set

1759
01:26:05,140 --> 01:25:59,810
this up for when we come back the other

1760
01:26:08,830 --> 01:26:05,150
part of Gobekli Tepe for me is the the

1761
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:08,840
Astro side the cosmic side of that which

1762
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:11,840
is very far it is very important and it

1763
01:26:17,980 --> 01:26:15,170
shouldn't have been right at 10,000 BC

1764
01:26:20,410 --> 01:26:17,990
that is Sara Lee is something that is

1765
01:26:23,860 --> 01:26:20,420
important but when we come back when you

1766
01:26:26,980 --> 01:26:23,870
first stepped up to gobekli tepe did it

1767
01:26:28,540 --> 01:26:26,990
hit you that way and I want you to hold

1768
01:26:31,330 --> 01:26:28,550
the answer because we're going to take a

1769
01:26:33,010 --> 01:26:31,340
break right here I can only imagine as

1770
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:33,020
you're going up the hill and you see it

1771
01:26:38,050 --> 01:26:35,210
for the first time did it hit you as a

1772
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:38,060
religious thing did it hit you with

1773
01:26:43,420 --> 01:26:41,570
another idea that maybe outside of the

1774
01:26:46,330 --> 01:26:43,430
box we'll discuss that when we come back

1775
01:26:48,010 --> 01:26:46,340
our guest tonight dr. Robert M shock a

1776
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:48,020
little shock and awe on fade to black

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tonight Robert M shock the gobekli tepe

1848
01:30:50,650 --> 01:30:48,660
shock and awe special and so check it

1849
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:50,660
out Robert I think the latest count is

1850
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:52,890
44 gobekli tepe

1851
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:56,850
tonight we really well I think we're

1852
01:31:03,260 --> 01:30:57,810
going to add to that

1853
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:03,270
yes somebody just said 45 now those oh

1854
01:31:07,460 --> 01:31:04,860
wait before we get to that can i

1855
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:07,470
interject something else sure because

1856
01:31:12,590 --> 01:31:09,930
while I was while we were on the break

1857
01:31:15,260 --> 01:31:12,600
Katie said that we could have another

1858
01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:15,270
revelation here and this is about her

1859
01:31:19,100 --> 01:31:17,730
not me because you were bringing up the

1860
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:19,110
whole issue of fingers

1861
01:31:23,510 --> 01:31:21,450
yes and it's hesitating because I didn't

1862
01:31:26,420 --> 01:31:23,520
know she'd want me to mention this but

1863
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:26,430
she said I could she was actually born

1864
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:30,570
with um what's known as try phalangeal

1865
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:35,490
nan opposing thumbs it's a well it's

1866
01:31:41,540 --> 01:31:38,400
enough it's a it's a it's a condition

1867
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:41,550
and it may be exhibited on the Easter on

1868
01:31:46,700 --> 01:31:43,770
moai and some of these other ancient

1869
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:46,710
statues where people have five fingers

1870
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:48,960
as opposed to four fingers and a thumb

1871
01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:50,370
if that makes sense

1872
01:31:58,460 --> 01:31:53,520
Wow yeah it's very interesting now in

1873
01:32:01,820 --> 01:31:58,470
modern terms uh she was you know as a

1874
01:32:04,190 --> 01:32:01,830
young child they turned two of her

1875
01:32:08,150 --> 01:32:04,200
fingers and that were in the thumb

1876
01:32:11,410 --> 01:32:08,160
position in two thumbs because you can

1877
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:11,420
do that now and they had to take out a

1878
01:32:15,410 --> 01:32:14,010
phalange to do that that's why it's

1879
01:32:16,970 --> 01:32:15,420
called tri phalangeal because if you

1880
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:16,980
look at your thumb it's actually missing

1881
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:19,170
one but this is something that we have

1882
01:32:24,470 --> 01:32:21,930
been you can understand very interested

1883
01:32:27,530 --> 01:32:24,480
in and you seem to see on earth Amman

1884
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:27,540
and Easter on moai et cetera so it maybe

1885
01:32:34,190 --> 01:32:30,930
it was something among the elite at the

1886
01:32:37,550 --> 01:32:34,200
time or you know more common condition

1887
01:32:39,980 --> 01:32:37,560
or you know came from some other area I

1888
01:32:41,810 --> 01:32:39,990
won't speculate where but it's a very

1889
01:32:44,090 --> 01:32:41,820
interesting phenomena so you can see

1890
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:44,100
that we're we're particularly interested

1891
01:32:47,149 --> 01:32:45,690
in tuned to this but I was hesitant

1892
01:32:49,009 --> 01:32:47,159
before the break I would

1893
01:32:51,140 --> 01:32:49,019
sure she's what me to mention today but

1894
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:51,150
she said no problem with mentioned I

1895
01:32:55,279 --> 01:32:53,010
think it's a really interesting neat

1896
01:33:00,199 --> 01:32:55,289
thing well then what you're saying is

1897
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:00,209
Katie is an elitist she is a leader or

1898
01:33:04,580 --> 01:33:02,489
an alien you see I have to go here she's

1899
01:33:07,159 --> 01:33:04,590
just saying our alias somebody once said

1900
01:33:11,060 --> 01:33:07,169
well this is an alien phenomenon but I

1901
01:33:13,580 --> 01:33:11,070
don't want to go there now before the

1902
01:33:16,909 --> 01:33:13,590
break I am just curious because I

1903
01:33:19,580 --> 01:33:16,919
haven't had the opportunity to walk up

1904
01:33:21,890 --> 01:33:19,590
on the site but when you did the first

1905
01:33:24,319 --> 01:33:21,900
time Robert you've seen so many

1906
01:33:27,949 --> 01:33:24,329
different sites around the world we did

1907
01:33:31,790 --> 01:33:27,959
it hit you as a religious site or a

1908
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:31,800
museum or was it something for cosmic

1909
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:35,010
origins we go out it really hit me I'll

1910
01:33:39,020 --> 01:33:36,570
tell you what it hit me the best way to

1911
01:33:41,419 --> 01:33:39,030
describe it the way I think of in of

1912
01:33:43,959 --> 01:33:41,429
course in my academic academic but I

1913
01:33:47,810 --> 01:33:43,969
mean this sincerely it hit me as a

1914
01:33:50,899 --> 01:33:47,820
university of the cosmos not just a

1915
01:33:53,109 --> 01:33:50,909
temple or religious site or you know

1916
01:33:55,299 --> 01:33:53,119
I've said this many times in different

1917
01:33:57,319 --> 01:33:55,309
contexts and I think it's true when

1918
01:33:59,239 --> 01:33:57,329
archaeologists find something and they

1919
01:34:03,699 --> 01:33:59,249
don't know what it is it's either a

1920
01:34:06,259 --> 01:34:03,709
temple or tomb and that's sort of a non

1921
01:34:08,509 --> 01:34:06,269
explanation in some cases you know some

1922
01:34:09,979 --> 01:34:08,519
cases you find body but even if you find

1923
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:09,989
a body that doesn't mean it was

1924
01:34:14,569 --> 01:34:12,570
primarily a tomb but we won't go there

1925
01:34:17,689 --> 01:34:14,579
now that gets into you know whether the

1926
01:34:22,189 --> 01:34:17,699
pyramids are tombs or not I really

1927
01:34:24,169 --> 01:34:22,199
struck me as a University and as I said

1928
01:34:26,899 --> 01:34:24,179
I would call maybe University of the

1929
01:34:29,029 --> 01:34:26,909
cosmos seems to have astronomical

1930
01:34:31,250 --> 01:34:29,039
alignments we can talk about that seems

1931
01:34:33,409 --> 01:34:31,260
to be recording information like any

1932
01:34:35,689 --> 01:34:33,419
good university today right they were

1933
01:34:40,310 --> 01:34:35,699
learning things there they were probably

1934
01:34:44,540 --> 01:34:40,320
exploring the aspects of nature they

1935
01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:44,550
were recording they were uh you know

1936
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:47,340
preserving information they may have had

1937
01:34:52,279 --> 01:34:49,110
writing I do want to point that out

1938
01:34:55,429 --> 01:34:52,289
before I forget because when you look at

1939
01:34:57,770 --> 01:34:55,439
the sculptures and you look at the

1940
01:35:00,589 --> 01:34:57,780
pillars and the carvings on the pillars

1941
01:35:04,759 --> 01:35:00,599
there does seem to be a certain amount

1942
01:35:08,629 --> 01:35:04,769
bollock notation and repetition if we

1943
01:35:12,319 --> 01:35:08,639
had only a few billboards and signs or

1944
01:35:14,739 --> 01:35:12,329
you know engravings from the sides of

1945
01:35:17,179 --> 01:35:14,749
buildings 12,000 years from now and

1946
01:35:19,580 --> 01:35:17,189
would people argue whether we were

1947
01:35:21,859 --> 01:35:19,590
literate or not they might well argue

1948
01:35:26,029 --> 01:35:21,869
about and come to the conclusion that we

1949
01:35:29,689 --> 01:35:26,039
were preliterate and what about on the

1950
01:35:35,270 --> 01:35:29,699
on the one pillar which clearly to me

1951
01:35:39,529 --> 01:35:35,280
says zodiac and it feels it feels that

1952
01:35:41,959 --> 01:35:39,539
it to me do you get that the same I mean

1953
01:35:46,069 --> 01:35:41,969
what the access quality is important so

1954
01:35:49,429 --> 01:35:46,079
what I get from Quebec Lee cafe is more

1955
01:35:52,729 --> 01:35:49,439
than just zodiac and this is based on my

1956
01:35:56,060 --> 01:35:52,739
analysis of it the most prominent

1957
01:35:58,549 --> 01:35:56,070
enclosure as they call it is known

1958
01:36:03,259 --> 01:35:58,559
technically as enclosure D because that

1959
01:36:07,639 --> 01:36:03,269
was the fourth that they a letter ABCD

1960
01:36:10,669 --> 01:36:07,649
it's serviced up on the southern hill of

1961
01:36:12,919 --> 01:36:10,679
Gobekli Tepe Quebec Lee Tepe us on the

1962
01:36:16,939 --> 01:36:12,929
southern slope of essentially small

1963
01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:16,949
mountain or our large hill closure D

1964
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:20,159
which is the oldest one of those four

1965
01:36:27,619 --> 01:36:24,169
enclosures a b c and d is absolutely my

1966
01:36:30,409 --> 01:36:27,629
assessment looking at the data straddles

1967
01:36:33,919 --> 01:36:30,419
the end of the last ice age the central

1968
01:36:37,939 --> 01:36:33,929
pillars of that are anthropomorphic they

1969
01:36:42,229 --> 01:36:37,949
have these humanoid forms they have arms

1970
01:36:45,020 --> 01:36:42,239
and hands the pillars and particularly

1971
01:36:48,589 --> 01:36:45,030
one of the pillars has an incredible

1972
01:36:50,540 --> 01:36:48,599
belt I mean a beautifully carved belt on

1973
01:36:52,909 --> 01:36:50,550
it so it's got belt it's got the arms

1974
01:36:58,969 --> 01:36:52,919
it's got the hands tucked under the

1975
01:37:02,449 --> 01:36:58,979
right arm is a fox or dog Fox the belt

1976
01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:02,459
has a Fox Pelt going cloth all of this

1977
01:37:08,199 --> 01:37:05,249
it looks like a hunter when the hunters

1978
01:37:11,719 --> 01:37:08,209
you know where Fox Pelt born cost etc

1979
01:37:14,060 --> 01:37:11,729
bottom line I think a very strong

1980
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:14,070
argument can be made that

1981
01:37:20,319 --> 01:37:17,760
this is Orion this represents a Ryan it

1982
01:37:23,030 --> 01:37:20,329
doesn't have a head it just has served

1983
01:37:25,669 --> 01:37:23,040
tea it's called tea pillow they call

1984
01:37:29,959 --> 01:37:25,679
them tea pillars it looks actually has

1985
01:37:32,209 --> 01:37:29,969
many similarities to the moai too which

1986
01:37:36,140 --> 01:37:32,219
is another issue but under it's right

1987
01:37:38,780 --> 01:37:36,150
arm as I said it has a little dog that

1988
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:38,790
could represent the dog star Sirius that

1989
01:37:46,069 --> 01:37:43,650
travels with Orion the belt is the belt

1990
01:37:50,810 --> 01:37:46,079
stars of Orion the loincloth is the

1991
01:37:53,780 --> 01:37:50,820
nebula that forms a server loincloth in

1992
01:37:55,910 --> 01:37:53,790
the sky Orion is a headless hunter it

1993
01:37:57,859 --> 01:37:55,920
doesn't have a head even though we have

1994
01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:57,869
plenty of other sculptures from Quebec

1995
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:00,239
we kept a showing heads they could carve

1996
01:38:06,530 --> 01:38:03,090
a human head if they want to or and Ryan

1997
01:38:09,470 --> 01:38:06,540
is encircled by the animals of the

1998
01:38:11,629 --> 01:38:09,480
zodiac the zodiac the zoo if you would

1999
01:38:14,300 --> 01:38:11,639
and hunts among them and this is what

2000
01:38:17,750 --> 01:38:14,310
you have you have the other pillars

2001
01:38:20,780 --> 01:38:17,760
encircling with various what could be

2002
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:20,790
the constellations from 12,000 years ago

2003
01:38:27,589 --> 01:38:23,570
which are not the same constellations as

2004
01:38:31,870 --> 01:38:27,599
we see to this day and the clincher I

2005
01:38:36,260 --> 01:38:31,880
think is that 10,000 BC are there abouts

2006
01:38:37,729 --> 01:38:36,270
this looked out this pillar we know

2007
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:37,739
which way this probe is looking is

2008
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:39,570
anthropomorphic because we have the

2009
01:38:44,060 --> 01:38:41,610
position of the hand so we know what the

2010
01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:44,070
front and the back are right if it

2011
01:38:48,890 --> 01:38:46,560
doesn't have a distinct head it looked

2012
01:38:52,970 --> 01:38:48,900
out to the southern sky on the vernal

2013
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:52,980
equinox at Orion and associate with the

2014
01:38:57,589 --> 01:38:55,050
Ryan of course is tourists and Pleiades

2015
01:39:02,419 --> 01:38:57,599
in that region of the sky so I think

2016
01:39:05,899 --> 01:39:02,429
we're looking at Orion other other

2017
01:39:09,439 --> 01:39:05,909
enclosures going down the southern slope

2018
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:09,449
of the hill at gobekli tepe

2019
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:13,679
also point to Orion but have reoriented

2020
01:39:18,500 --> 01:39:16,290
have been reoriented because of

2021
01:39:22,910 --> 01:39:18,510
precession because of the slow movement

2022
01:39:24,879 --> 01:39:22,920
of the stars relative to the Sun so they

2023
01:39:26,700 --> 01:39:24,889
were looking at precession and

2024
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:26,710
acknowledging and

2025
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:29,170
taking procession into account something

2026
01:39:45,480 --> 01:39:32,730
that classical historians classical

2027
01:39:50,580 --> 01:39:45,490
archaeo-astronomer gary session until

2028
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:50,590
the ancient greeks just 2,200 2,300

2029
01:39:56,370 --> 01:39:54,490
years ago so you know based on our true

2030
01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:56,380
north and especially when you look at

2031
01:40:03,300 --> 01:40:00,480
enclosures C and D also be as well

2032
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:03,310
everything the two main pillars in the

2033
01:40:10,770 --> 01:40:06,850
middle are like five three four five

2034
01:40:13,260 --> 01:40:10,780
degrees tilted to the left you know

2035
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:13,270
based on from North instead being due

2036
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:15,730
south they're slightly to the east right

2037
01:40:21,330 --> 01:40:18,310
oriented slightly to the east yes and

2038
01:40:24,450 --> 01:40:21,340
and so would that make up for the the

2039
01:40:29,130 --> 01:40:24,460
procession yes yes exactly and as you go

2040
01:40:30,540 --> 01:40:29,140
from D to C to B to a there's more angle

2041
01:40:33,420 --> 01:40:30,550
there if you would because of

2042
01:40:36,900 --> 01:40:33,430
professional changes yeah I have no no

2043
01:40:38,490 --> 01:40:36,910
doubt whatsoever and I don't want to

2044
01:40:40,380 --> 01:40:38,500
knock of their people but there have

2045
01:40:43,050 --> 01:40:40,390
been other interpretations that they're

2046
01:40:45,300 --> 01:40:43,060
looking at other parts of the sky I want

2047
01:40:48,030 --> 01:40:45,310
to point out that some of those I think

2048
01:40:50,850 --> 01:40:48,040
are just absolutely bogus other in other

2049
01:40:52,710 --> 01:40:50,860
cases if this is a university of the

2050
01:40:55,130 --> 01:40:52,720
cosmos yeah they're going to have some

2051
01:40:59,190 --> 01:40:55,140
orientations to other points in the sky

2052
01:41:01,530 --> 01:40:59,200
also just like Karnak in Egypt has

2053
01:41:03,180 --> 01:41:01,540
several different orientations built

2054
01:41:05,970 --> 01:41:03,190
into it but I think the major

2055
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:05,980
orientation was toward a Ryan and Orion

2056
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:09,040
is really interesting because we have

2057
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:13,090
Orion or orientations in number of very

2058
01:41:19,740 --> 01:41:16,810
ancient sites now including of course

2059
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:19,750
the Giza Plateau where the Sphinx is

2060
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:22,410
located and this ties in with the whole

2061
01:41:27,690 --> 01:41:25,360
Orion correlation theory as it's now

2062
01:41:31,830 --> 01:41:27,700
called that my good friend and colleague

2063
01:41:35,610 --> 01:41:31,840
Robert Bauval came up with a number of

2064
01:41:37,860 --> 01:41:35,620
years ago and that also points when

2065
01:41:40,020 --> 01:41:37,870
everything is put back into the proper

2066
01:41:42,779 --> 01:41:40,030
position should we say you run

2067
01:41:46,709 --> 01:41:42,789
clock back the orientations correlate

2068
01:41:49,620 --> 01:41:46,719
best with about 10,000 10,500 BC the end

2069
01:41:53,459 --> 01:41:49,630
of the last ice age with the Sphinx

2070
01:41:56,879 --> 01:41:53,469
looking due east at the lion in the sky

2071
01:42:01,410 --> 01:41:56,889
that is Leo on the vernal equinox and

2072
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:01,420
the three major pyramids oriented toward

2073
01:42:08,850 --> 01:42:05,650
are oriented correctly relative to the

2074
01:42:13,470 --> 01:42:08,860
NAM relative to the Nile as the Milky

2075
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:13,480
Way is situated relative to the belt

2076
01:42:21,359 --> 01:42:16,210
stars of Orion so we keep getting this

2077
01:42:23,430 --> 01:42:21,369
Orion camel deep and yelling sights and

2078
01:42:27,029 --> 01:42:23,440
at the same time period there's other

2079
01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:27,039
sites too for instance my colleague

2080
01:42:37,620 --> 01:42:31,710
Thomas Brophy a physicist and astronomer

2081
01:42:40,979 --> 01:42:37,630
opcom that I as a PhD in these in in

2082
01:42:43,740 --> 01:42:40,989
physics and has the love astrophysics

2083
01:42:46,290 --> 01:42:43,750
etc working at napped apply as found the

2084
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:46,300
same correlations at this early period

2085
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:49,090
same correlations to Rice Orion was very

2086
01:42:55,020 --> 01:42:52,690
important and I was embarrassed somewhat

2087
01:42:56,609 --> 01:42:55,030
to find it eka Beckley Tepe but it makes

2088
01:42:58,200 --> 01:42:56,619
sense I was only embarrassed because I

2089
01:43:01,770 --> 01:42:58,210
didn't want people think I was just

2090
01:43:03,450 --> 01:43:01,780
copying other people right yeah I bet

2091
01:43:06,029 --> 01:43:03,460
they're real it's really there and it

2092
01:43:07,919 --> 01:43:06,039
makes sense to though if you look at the

2093
01:43:11,609 --> 01:43:07,929
night sky and this is something we had a

2094
01:43:13,169 --> 01:43:11,619
chance to do in Sedona when we were just

2095
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:13,179
there for that little conference you

2096
01:43:20,209 --> 01:43:15,610
could go out into the desert see the

2097
01:43:22,770 --> 01:43:20,219
beautiful night sky Orion is an

2098
01:43:25,919 --> 01:43:22,780
incredible asterism more or less it is

2099
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:25,929
really prominent in the sky yes on your

2100
01:43:30,450 --> 01:43:29,050
face it's it's in your face unlike a lot

2101
01:43:32,939 --> 01:43:30,460
of constellations where you have to

2102
01:43:36,750 --> 01:43:32,949
really look for them in room know where

2103
01:43:39,450 --> 01:43:36,760
are they and makes them out and Orion's

2104
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:39,460
a really incredible asterism now I

2105
01:43:43,410 --> 01:43:41,050
wanted to ask you about one other

2106
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:43,420
important thing for me stands out like a

2107
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:46,960
sore thumb with gobekli tepe and that is

2108
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:50,170
what I call the purses right there are

2109
01:43:56,930 --> 01:43:53,489
purses there that are also

2110
01:44:00,350 --> 01:43:56,940
in ancient Sumer tied with some of the

2111
01:44:03,319 --> 01:44:00,360
Anunnaki carvings but but they're there

2112
01:44:06,350 --> 01:44:03,329
and they're also in other megalithic

2113
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,360
sites around the world this purse now

2114
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:08,880
what is the significance of that and I

2115
01:44:13,580 --> 01:44:11,760
don't think it's an accident I don't

2116
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:13,590
think it's an accident and I don't think

2117
01:44:18,259 --> 01:44:16,650
they're purses a lot of things you times

2118
01:44:20,140 --> 01:44:18,269
you can have something and then it

2119
01:44:22,939 --> 01:44:20,150
becomes something else

2120
01:44:25,189 --> 01:44:22,949
representationally so yeah I know that

2121
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:25,199
in some cases in some of the later

2122
01:44:29,899 --> 01:44:27,449
carvings and when I say later carvings

2123
01:44:33,620 --> 01:44:29,909
I'm still talking you know 3,000 years

2124
01:44:35,419 --> 01:44:33,630
old or more right are even up to 5,000

2125
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:35,429
years or more in some cases

2126
01:44:40,609 --> 01:44:37,530
they've been analogized to guys actually

2127
01:44:42,379 --> 01:44:40,619
carrying what looked like purses or some

2128
01:44:45,379 --> 01:44:42,389
people want to called man bags or

2129
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:45,389
whatever right what one possibility and

2130
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:48,480
I think this ties back in fact I know it

2131
01:44:53,839 --> 01:44:51,570
ties back it mean that the my theory

2132
01:44:56,750 --> 01:44:53,849
ties back to what was happening at the

2133
01:44:59,779 --> 01:44:56,760
end of the last ice age and that is

2134
01:45:02,479 --> 01:44:59,789
again these dramatic events that would

2135
01:45:05,299 --> 01:45:02,489
traumatize the people at the time which

2136
01:45:08,660 --> 01:45:05,309
originate or were caused by a major

2137
01:45:11,810 --> 01:45:08,670
solar outbursts you know solar flares

2138
01:45:14,359 --> 01:45:11,820
coronal mass ejections things being spit

2139
01:45:17,569 --> 01:45:14,369
off by the Sun what is one of the

2140
01:45:20,270 --> 01:45:17,579
phenomena that you see on a massive

2141
01:45:24,830 --> 01:45:20,280
scale when that occurs it is basically

2142
01:45:27,950 --> 01:45:24,840
on solar arcs these these filaments if

2143
01:45:30,589 --> 01:45:27,960
you would huge filaments that come off

2144
01:45:35,540 --> 01:45:30,599
the earth I'm sorry come off the Sun

2145
01:45:40,129 --> 01:45:35,550
make huge parks then flare out and hit

2146
01:45:42,169 --> 01:45:40,139
earth so one very good possibility in my

2147
01:45:45,140 --> 01:45:42,179
assessment is these are not purses that

2148
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:45,150
all these are diagrammatic

2149
01:45:54,259 --> 01:45:47,489
representations or derived from solar

2150
01:45:56,959 --> 01:45:54,269
arcing the other you know I don't want

2151
01:46:01,129 --> 01:45:56,969
to sound like a child here but what we

2152
01:46:03,830 --> 01:46:01,139
all do what I see when I see that belt

2153
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:03,840
every single time with the H on it and

2154
01:46:08,620 --> 01:46:05,360
the buckle in the hands

2155
01:46:10,390 --> 01:46:08,630
down and I see that all I can think of

2156
01:46:13,110 --> 01:46:10,400
and I've been criticised about this but

2157
01:46:14,590 --> 01:46:13,120
I'm at the point I don't care but I see

2158
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:14,600
high-fashion

2159
01:46:24,820 --> 01:46:19,250
I see sophistication I see a belt buckle

2160
01:46:27,850 --> 01:46:24,830
a novel buckle with with a designs on it

2161
01:46:32,350 --> 01:46:27,860
the the hermes age whatever but yeah

2162
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:32,360
it's there and it shows me that that is

2163
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:35,570
a culture that was way beyond of what is

2164
01:46:39,580 --> 01:46:37,520
supposed to be that belt is as

2165
01:46:41,710 --> 01:46:39,590
significant as anything I go back

2166
01:46:42,430 --> 01:46:41,720
through 1000 I think when you look at

2167
01:46:46,030 --> 01:46:42,440
that belt

2168
01:46:48,610 --> 01:46:46,040
I said buckle you can actually imagine

2169
01:46:51,790 --> 01:46:48,620
how this buckle work and based on

2170
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:51,800
analogies with modern belts right and it

2171
01:46:58,830 --> 01:46:55,330
was pretty sophisticated and has got

2172
01:47:02,190 --> 01:46:58,840
symbols on it that type of thing but

2173
01:47:05,230 --> 01:47:02,200
it's probably a combination in my

2174
01:47:08,350 --> 01:47:05,240
assessment of both high fashion airs one

2175
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:08,360
of my students once said designer built

2176
01:47:15,190 --> 01:47:12,850
10000 BC but I also think it's encoding

2177
01:47:19,540 --> 01:47:15,200
essentially math and science and

2178
01:47:25,030 --> 01:47:19,550
information into it to me that H in that

2179
01:47:32,380 --> 01:47:25,040
C etc is probably symbolic notation the

2180
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:32,390
H actually ties in with a plasma shape

2181
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:35,090
you know very highly stylized again I'm

2182
01:47:40,630 --> 01:47:36,770
talking about what happened at the end

2183
01:47:42,670 --> 01:47:40,640
of the last ice age and the Sun I think

2184
01:47:45,150 --> 01:47:42,680
it ties in as we were just talking about

2185
01:47:49,510 --> 01:47:45,160
with Orion and the belt stars of Orion

2186
01:47:52,630 --> 01:47:49,520
so I suspect it is so sophisticated that

2187
01:47:57,090 --> 01:47:52,640
it is both high-fashion if you would ten

2188
01:47:59,950 --> 01:47:57,100
thousand or so BC but also incorporating

2189
01:48:04,200 --> 01:47:59,960
real information real science if you

2190
01:48:06,550 --> 01:48:04,210
would you know symbolic notation that's

2191
01:48:10,090 --> 01:48:06,560
referring to things that were happening

2192
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:10,100
at the time and what do you think you

2193
01:48:16,420 --> 01:48:12,650
just mentioned the H I don't think any

2194
01:48:18,209 --> 01:48:16,430
of this can be ignored here but that H

2195
01:48:20,220 --> 01:48:18,219
is deliberate with

2196
01:48:22,979 --> 01:48:20,230
you are something ever in youth you

2197
01:48:26,130 --> 01:48:22,989
c-h-s elsewhere at Quebec we tap a

2198
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:26,140
carved into some of the pillars and yeah

2199
01:48:32,010 --> 01:48:28,930
I'm looking at like five right here yeah

2200
01:48:34,140 --> 01:48:32,020
and I hated I hate to do it but I'm just

2201
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:34,150
going to mention it really quick I'll do

2202
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:36,250
this for Giorgio you have those age

2203
01:48:46,290 --> 01:48:41,530
blocks and I know coma Coco yeah yeah

2204
01:48:49,950 --> 01:48:46,300
yeah ah but again you know H H are the H

2205
01:48:53,550 --> 01:48:49,960
symbol and this is bit stylized now

2206
01:48:57,450 --> 01:48:53,560
think more if the the arms of the H or

2207
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:57,460
the two H's reserved like C and a

2208
01:49:04,830 --> 01:49:00,000
backward C and you also see that at

2209
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:04,840
Quebec late F a joined in the middle you

2210
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:06,850
would start to think more in terms of

2211
01:49:15,209 --> 01:49:10,090
what you would see in the sky during a

2212
01:49:18,209 --> 01:49:15,219
major plasma discharge of solar outburst

2213
01:49:21,390 --> 01:49:18,219
our solar discharge and it may go back

2214
01:49:24,209 --> 01:49:21,400
to that so again it may go back to some

2215
01:49:29,790 --> 01:49:24,219
real natural phenomenon that was

2216
01:49:31,740 --> 01:49:29,800
incredibly important uh yeah and and

2217
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:31,750
this starts to look again like so the

2218
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:35,920
petroglyphs etc uh some of the what look

2219
01:49:42,209 --> 01:49:39,610
like stick figure are men that you would

2220
01:49:44,220 --> 01:49:42,219
see well yeah the H is like in

2221
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:44,230
parentheses and I know that's a modern

2222
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:48,010
interpretation but it is being singled

2223
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:50,080
out it's like they're pointing towards

2224
01:49:55,530 --> 01:49:52,560
it there's something - yeah yeah exactly

2225
01:49:57,689 --> 01:49:55,540
exactly so that's why I say I think it's

2226
01:50:00,540 --> 01:49:57,699
more than just a fashion statement it's

2227
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:00,550
more than just design it's more than

2228
01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:05,890
just you know putting things on the rock

2229
01:50:11,250 --> 01:50:09,730
to look pretty or dress it up you don't

2230
01:50:13,590 --> 01:50:11,260
go through that much trouble with it

2231
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:13,600
there isn't some serious message here

2232
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:18,010
now do you think yeah okay we got enough

2233
01:50:21,420 --> 01:50:19,449
time to get this in because I want to

2234
01:50:23,820 --> 01:50:21,430
get to Giza and also some phone calls

2235
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:23,830
but so we've got about five minutes here

2236
01:50:30,890 --> 01:50:27,840
do you think the more that I look at

2237
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:30,900
I've studied it to my eyes of blood

2238
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:34,410
red right it looks to me that there's a

2239
01:50:42,020 --> 01:50:38,010
possibility that these circles were

2240
01:50:43,700 --> 01:50:42,030
covered that it with the with the outer

2241
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:43,710
pillars the way that they all point

2242
01:50:47,900 --> 01:50:45,090
towards the center you have the t

2243
01:50:50,060 --> 01:50:47,910
pillars exposed in the middle but they

2244
01:50:52,220 --> 01:50:50,070
have those strange grooves on the top

2245
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:52,230
where I think there's a possibility that

2246
01:50:57,650 --> 01:50:54,650
would and there could have been a roof

2247
01:51:00,080 --> 01:50:57,660
well no I I would tell you in my opinion

2248
01:51:03,470 --> 01:51:00,090
on that having stated been there in

2249
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:03,480
person a number of times I suspect that

2250
01:51:08,630 --> 01:51:05,970
there may have been second in fact there

2251
01:51:13,580 --> 01:51:08,640
is evidence for the secondary roofing

2252
01:51:16,970 --> 01:51:13,590
over covering of it initially my

2253
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:16,980
personal opinion is that they were open

2254
01:51:21,980 --> 01:51:18,510
to the sky they were used for

2255
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:21,990
astronomical yeah was observatory also

2256
01:51:29,390 --> 01:51:26,850
those pillars are were very cleverly

2257
01:51:33,500 --> 01:51:29,400
I'll put it that way it's in a very

2258
01:51:37,070 --> 01:51:33,510
sophisticated manner erected such that

2259
01:51:40,820 --> 01:51:37,080
they're barely set into the bedrock it's

2260
01:51:43,300 --> 01:51:40,830
a very shallow groove that is used to

2261
01:51:45,410 --> 01:51:43,310
set them into the bedrock right and

2262
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:45,420
Schmidt said himself that they were

2263
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:49,970
using some kind of cement ossification

2264
01:51:56,420 --> 01:51:53,730
cement to cement them in he initially

2265
01:51:58,880 --> 01:51:56,430
thought that when they were excavating

2266
01:52:01,100 --> 01:51:58,890
them ultimately they would find that

2267
01:52:04,430 --> 01:52:01,110
about third of the pillar or so like

2268
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:04,440
Stonehenge was set into the bedrock or

2269
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:07,170
set into the ground somehow when they

2270
01:52:12,290 --> 01:52:09,530
got down to the bottom they found that

2271
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:12,300
literally just centimeters worth I mean

2272
01:52:18,710 --> 01:52:14,610
very small amount ascends to the bedrock

2273
01:52:21,860 --> 01:52:18,720
not enough to support it to any you know

2274
01:52:25,040 --> 01:52:21,870
great extent they were really balanced

2275
01:52:26,870 --> 01:52:25,050
very finely I suspect they were

2276
01:52:30,710 --> 01:52:26,880
vibrating at one point sort of like

2277
01:52:35,750 --> 01:52:30,720
tuning forks which may have added to the

2278
01:52:39,590 --> 01:52:35,760
overall effects of the site in terms of

2279
01:52:43,399 --> 01:52:39,600
you know conscious raising consciousness

2280
01:52:46,279 --> 01:52:43,409
levels of making it

2281
01:52:48,679 --> 01:52:46,289
a variable just called special place for

2282
01:52:51,620 --> 01:52:48,689
people to visit so it was very finely

2283
01:52:55,580 --> 01:52:51,630
tuned it was a bit fragile that type of

2284
01:52:59,439 --> 01:52:55,590
thing but but very sophisticated later I

2285
01:53:03,919 --> 01:52:59,449
I suspect maybe when the catastrophe

2286
01:53:07,850 --> 01:53:03,929
started to hit at one point they covered

2287
01:53:10,489 --> 01:53:07,860
it over put a refund over it some of the

2288
01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:10,499
holes and groups and whatnot that you

2289
01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,719
see on the tops of the pillars maybe

2290
01:53:18,109 --> 01:53:14,880
secondary in fact I suspect they are

2291
01:53:20,929 --> 01:53:18,119
secondary they were not original to the

2292
01:53:22,909 --> 01:53:20,939
pillar so one thing has one thing one

2293
01:53:25,850 --> 01:53:22,919
has to keep in mind is that this is a

2294
01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:25,860
site that was actively used over a long

2295
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:28,110
period of time and it was modified along

2296
01:53:35,779 --> 01:53:32,010
the way it was parts were rebuilt as we

2297
01:53:38,989 --> 01:53:35,789
discussed at one point roof was put over

2298
01:53:41,600 --> 01:53:38,999
it in my assessment but that wasn't

2299
01:53:43,219 --> 01:53:41,610
necessarily the original site this is

2300
01:53:45,770 --> 01:53:43,229
interesting because National Geographic

2301
01:53:49,310 --> 01:53:45,780
has done some reconstructions of it and

2302
01:53:51,919 --> 01:53:49,320
their reconstructions are not to be too

2303
01:53:54,500 --> 01:53:51,929
critical but a bit of a hodgepodge where

2304
01:53:56,540 --> 01:53:54,510
they show some of the original portions

2305
01:54:00,080 --> 01:53:56,550
of it plus some of the reconstructions

2306
01:54:03,770 --> 01:54:00,090
all thrown together and essentially make

2307
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:03,780
it out in a way that may never have it

2308
01:54:11,089 --> 01:54:07,199
may never have you can't talk may never

2309
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:11,099
have existed at one point in time do you

2310
01:54:18,649 --> 01:54:14,249
think that the investment will be made

2311
01:54:22,969 --> 01:54:18,659
to complete the dig there and get to all

2312
01:54:27,140 --> 01:54:22,979
22 24 25 possibly not not and not not in

2313
01:54:31,339 --> 01:54:27,150
my lifetime or your lifetime it's very

2314
01:54:33,500 --> 01:54:31,349
very very expensive to do that to do it

2315
01:54:36,979 --> 01:54:33,510
properly plus there's a war going on

2316
01:54:39,109 --> 01:54:36,989
right across some the border when you're

2317
01:54:42,409 --> 01:54:39,119
a Quebec lead cap especially at night

2318
01:54:45,949 --> 01:54:42,419
you can see the Syrian side you can see

2319
01:54:47,870 --> 01:54:45,959
the border I was there at one point in

2320
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:47,880
their word you could see the fires as

2321
01:54:54,500 --> 01:54:51,360
they were you know the war was going on

2322
01:54:56,689 --> 01:54:54,510
in Syria absolutely because it's a very

2323
01:54:59,089 --> 01:54:56,699
- very it's a dangerous area

2324
01:55:01,489 --> 01:54:59,099
a practical point of view right now they

2325
01:55:03,859 --> 01:55:01,499
are roofing it over they boxed in some

2326
01:55:06,290 --> 01:55:03,869
of the pillars they've removed a lot of

2327
01:55:08,180 --> 01:55:06,300
material to the new museum and Orpha

2328
01:55:10,489 --> 01:55:08,190
they're building incredible Museum not

2329
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:10,499
building they have built an incredible

2330
01:55:18,350 --> 01:55:14,010
multi multi multi-million dollar museum

2331
01:55:22,069 --> 01:55:18,360
in earth to house artifacts from gobekli

2332
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:22,079
tepe they've done reconstruction of one

2333
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:25,530
of the enclosures that Gobekli Tepe and

2334
01:55:31,549 --> 01:55:28,530
you know big it's a it's not the same as

2335
01:55:35,299 --> 01:55:31,559
seeing the real thing but they're doing

2336
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:35,309
their best and the site itself I've

2337
01:55:40,189 --> 01:55:38,010
heard now since we were last there it's

2338
01:55:42,350 --> 01:55:40,199
actually been closed down it's they're

2339
01:55:46,489 --> 01:55:42,360
just trying to protect it and the best

2340
01:55:48,949 --> 01:55:46,499
way to protect the unexcavated portions

2341
01:55:52,009 --> 01:55:48,959
are to leave them uh necks cavae it now

2342
01:55:55,520 --> 01:55:52,019
we've got two minutes for response here

2343
01:55:57,439 --> 01:55:55,530
with a it going finally mainstream and

2344
01:56:01,339 --> 01:55:57,449
went into the mainstream media I know

2345
01:56:04,069 --> 01:56:01,349
that you read the the press releases

2346
01:56:07,339 --> 01:56:04,079
that now they are suggesting that the

2347
01:56:12,469 --> 01:56:07,349
carvings on some of the pillars they are

2348
01:56:14,750 --> 01:56:12,479
suggesting the the impact of some type

2349
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:14,760
of solar event what did you think about

2350
01:56:20,180 --> 01:56:16,530
that when you read it right the solar

2351
01:56:22,069 --> 01:56:20,190
event is absolutely correct what I want

2352
01:56:24,890 --> 01:56:22,079
to say is that there are also been press

2353
01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:24,900
releases suggesting a comet event and

2354
01:56:29,810 --> 01:56:27,360
you have to distinguish between comet

2355
01:56:31,790 --> 01:56:29,820
and solar events and this comet event

2356
01:56:33,410 --> 01:56:31,800
there's no suggestion for that I mean

2357
01:56:36,109 --> 01:56:33,420
I've looked at it very carefully I don't

2358
01:56:39,589 --> 01:56:36,119
buy the comet interpretation but the

2359
01:56:41,299 --> 01:56:39,599
solar event yes absolutely yeah as I

2360
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:41,309
said that's what I started to say when

2361
01:56:45,500 --> 01:56:43,650
you were asking about our that's why I

2362
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:45,510
said when you asked about the dating of

2363
01:56:49,729 --> 01:56:47,610
Gobekli Tepe it's very important that it

2364
01:56:52,899 --> 01:56:49,739
straddles the end of last ice age it

2365
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:52,909
straddles the major solar event that

2366
01:56:57,830 --> 01:56:56,130
brought our ice age to a close let's

2367
01:56:59,509 --> 01:56:57,840
take a break right here when we come

2368
01:57:01,969 --> 01:56:59,519
back we're going to head a little bit

2369
01:57:04,729 --> 01:57:01,979
south and west and go straight to Giza

2370
01:57:07,939 --> 01:57:04,739
we have to because our guest tonight is

2371
01:57:09,379 --> 01:57:07,949
dr. Robert M shock a little shocking ah

2372
01:57:09,950 --> 01:57:09,389
but we're going to go to Giza you ready

2373
01:57:12,590 --> 01:57:09,960
for that Rob

2374
01:57:14,900 --> 01:57:12,600
I'm ready let's do it we'll take some

2375
01:57:24,170 --> 01:57:14,910
phone calls this is fade to black we'll

2376
01:57:30,830 --> 01:57:24,180
be right back I'm Yvonne is Rob Halford

2377
01:57:33,590 --> 01:57:30,840
amid God on TV Church radio calm this is

2378
01:57:38,110 --> 01:57:33,600
kg are a digital broadcasting station

2379
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:38,120
Salt Lake City Utah Van Buren Arkansas

2380
01:57:42,979 --> 01:57:40,800
ok nurse let's get this man to the ER

2381
01:57:45,530 --> 01:57:42,989
staff right away doctor we see this

2382
01:57:47,540 --> 01:57:45,540
every day heart attack or angina pain

2383
01:57:50,120 --> 01:57:47,550
due to blocked and clogged arteries

2384
01:57:52,100 --> 01:57:50,130
chelation can remove obstructions or

2385
01:57:53,959 --> 01:57:52,110
blockages from arteries and help avoid

2386
01:57:56,630 --> 01:57:53,969
painful and expensive surgery

2387
01:57:58,310 --> 01:57:56,640
now there's angiogram it's a liquid oral

2388
01:58:00,680 --> 01:57:58,320
chelation product that you take with

2389
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all right welcome back fade to black

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our guest tonight dr. Robert M shock

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02:01:10,540 --> 02:01:08,000
I'm your host Jimmy Church on the game

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02:01:11,410 --> 02:01:10,550
changer network in kgr aid the planet

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02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:11,420
I'm going to open up the phone lines

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02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:13,250
three to three eight two five five zero

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02:01:18,690 --> 02:01:17,210
four five and Robert I'm going to go

2459
02:01:21,940 --> 02:01:18,700
back to the first time you run the show

2460
02:01:24,850 --> 02:01:21,950
which was you know four years ago it's

2461
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:24,860
crazy to think about that but I hit you

2462
02:01:29,830 --> 02:01:27,170
with the question that you were reticent

2463
02:01:32,380 --> 02:01:29,840
to answer I asked you the second time

2464
02:01:35,860 --> 02:01:32,390
you were on the show three years ago you

2465
02:01:36,760 --> 02:01:35,870
kind of answered it I want to I'm going

2466
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:36,770
to ask you again

2467
02:01:41,620 --> 02:01:38,570
you spent the night in the King's

2468
02:01:46,060 --> 02:01:41,630
Chamber and you saw and you said it was

2469
02:01:48,970 --> 02:01:46,070
just a moving moving experience

2470
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:48,980
nearly an epiphany what happened what

2471
02:01:55,090 --> 02:01:51,610
happened until you see more than that I

2472
02:01:58,540 --> 02:01:55,100
mean you know everyone if you no no

2473
02:02:01,180 --> 02:01:58,550
that's a even Napoleon did talk about go

2474
02:02:03,250 --> 02:02:01,190
right seriously I

2475
02:02:05,290 --> 02:02:03,260
okay there's coming out and there's

2476
02:02:06,670 --> 02:02:05,300
coming out I'm not coming out that far

2477
02:02:08,980 --> 02:02:06,680
you're not coming out that you're not

2478
02:02:11,980 --> 02:02:08,990
going to leave the room say something

2479
02:02:13,900 --> 02:02:11,990
for another show for another time how

2480
02:02:16,510 --> 02:02:13,910
long on one of these one of these nights

2481
02:02:19,540 --> 02:02:16,520
one of these days you know they'll say

2482
02:02:22,150 --> 02:02:19,550
Quebec we have a so often and somehow it

2483
02:02:26,290 --> 02:02:22,160
will inspire me to go into more detail

2484
02:02:29,620 --> 02:02:26,300
but okay I can only imagine night what

2485
02:02:32,190 --> 02:02:29,630
but but I will say that not just a great

2486
02:02:35,830 --> 02:02:32,200
pyramid not just the King's Chamber uh

2487
02:02:38,950 --> 02:02:35,840
but and this is something I would I want

2488
02:02:41,170 --> 02:02:38,960
to give John Anthony West some credit

2489
02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:41,180
because he's the one that has really

2490
02:02:46,210 --> 02:02:43,850
stressed that but I agree with him not

2491
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:46,220
just because intellectually but from the

2492
02:02:51,730 --> 02:02:48,770
experience from experiencing them when

2493
02:02:56,050 --> 02:02:51,740
you experience these structures you have

2494
02:02:58,510 --> 02:02:56,060
to be emotionally dead mentally dead if

2495
02:03:00,040 --> 02:02:58,520
you would if you daren't moved by them

2496
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:00,050
if you don't get anything out of them

2497
02:03:04,780 --> 02:03:01,570
but to be in the King's Chamber

2498
02:03:07,060 --> 02:03:04,790
overnight I mean that's something and no

2499
02:03:07,540 --> 02:03:07,070
I'm not going to review anything more

2500
02:03:09,899 --> 02:03:07,550
right now

2501
02:03:13,379 --> 02:03:09,909
okay well fair enough is it

2502
02:03:17,310 --> 02:03:13,389
do you think that it is something that

2503
02:03:20,189 --> 02:03:17,320
is occurring between not only the grand

2504
02:03:24,689 --> 02:03:20,199
up at the weight of the rock it is the

2505
02:03:26,910 --> 02:03:24,699
weight of the structure its alignment to

2506
02:03:29,250 --> 02:03:26,920
the tree I think it probably has to do

2507
02:03:32,490 --> 02:03:29,260
with all of those but I love it I will

2508
02:03:35,550 --> 02:03:32,500
say this it may be alignment it may be a

2509
02:03:39,200 --> 02:03:35,560
concentration of should we say forces

2510
02:03:41,879 --> 02:03:39,210
but something that's very important is

2511
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:41,889
human resonances if people know what

2512
02:03:49,410 --> 02:03:45,280
that is these are low frequency long

2513
02:03:51,689 --> 02:03:49,420
wave resonances something that sometimes

2514
02:03:55,140 --> 02:03:51,699
it's referred to as a heartbeat of the

2515
02:03:59,640 --> 02:03:55,150
earth it aligns with our natural mental

2516
02:04:02,430 --> 02:03:59,650
functions as can be measured with brain

2517
02:04:05,939 --> 02:04:02,440
waves that type of thing and we

2518
02:04:07,860 --> 02:04:05,949
essentially need these to stay sane but

2519
02:04:12,209 --> 02:04:07,870
when you're in a place like the Great

2520
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:12,219
Pyramid it seems to amplify them and at

2521
02:04:19,080 --> 02:04:15,730
the same time filters out shorter

2522
02:04:21,959 --> 02:04:19,090
wavelength higher frequency and so you

2523
02:04:23,910 --> 02:04:21,969
tap into I'll explain it this way and

2524
02:04:28,350 --> 02:04:23,920
this is somewhat metaphorical but you

2525
02:04:33,689 --> 02:04:28,360
tap into these lower frequency longer

2526
02:04:35,580 --> 02:04:33,699
wavelength ah resonances and these are

2527
02:04:39,570 --> 02:04:35,590
real these can be measured physically

2528
02:04:42,870 --> 02:04:39,580
and it affects your consciousness it

2529
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:42,880
leads to higher states that type of

2530
02:04:48,180 --> 02:04:45,610
thing and allows you to tap into what

2531
02:04:52,770 --> 02:04:48,190
some people would call the sort of the

2532
02:04:55,709 --> 02:04:52,780
bigger realm of consciousness which is

2533
02:04:58,500 --> 02:04:55,719
independent from physical brains now

2534
02:05:00,750 --> 02:04:58,510
when we go back and we looked at and we

2535
02:05:04,070 --> 02:05:00,760
look at the first dynasty or dynasty 0

2536
02:05:08,370 --> 02:05:04,080
and we're looking at men a and/or Narmer

2537
02:05:10,500 --> 02:05:08,380
the the unification of upper and lower

2538
02:05:14,310 --> 02:05:10,510
egypt and we look at that time period

2539
02:05:17,580 --> 02:05:14,320
allegedly you know it's a 3000 bc 3500

2540
02:05:22,010 --> 02:05:17,590
bc somewhere in that area do you think

2541
02:05:27,410 --> 02:05:22,020
that many in harry

2542
02:05:31,130 --> 02:05:27,420
the Giza Plateau he okay let me put it

2543
02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:31,140
this way the geese answer is yes the

2544
02:05:36,860 --> 02:05:33,930
answer is absolutely yes but what he

2545
02:05:41,290 --> 02:05:36,870
inherited was I don't want to say a pile

2546
02:05:45,470 --> 02:05:41,300
of rubble but what he inherited was a

2547
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:45,480
situation where he had and the dynastic

2548
02:05:52,880 --> 02:05:49,290
Egyptians had much older probably

2549
02:05:56,630 --> 02:05:52,890
somewhat ruinous structures that dated

2550
02:05:58,820 --> 02:05:56,640
back to that earlier cycle before the

2551
02:06:01,730 --> 02:05:58,830
end of the last ice age with the

2552
02:06:05,020 --> 02:06:01,740
Egyptians referred to as empty banks the

2553
02:06:09,890 --> 02:06:05,030
first time the time of the gods and that

2554
02:06:11,960 --> 02:06:09,900
ended and I'm saying this is a geologist

2555
02:06:16,430 --> 02:06:11,970
I'm saying this as someone who studied

2556
02:06:19,550 --> 02:06:16,440
all the data on the on the Giza Plateau

2557
02:06:22,910 --> 02:06:19,560
that ended with the end of the last ice

2558
02:06:25,990 --> 02:06:22,920
age 9700 BC just as we have the

2559
02:06:30,710 --> 02:06:26,000
catastrophe that was experienced and

2560
02:06:34,220 --> 02:06:30,720
recorded not by human hands but by the

2561
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:34,230
evidence of the destruction and the

2562
02:06:39,050 --> 02:06:36,330
pillars being knocked down in Quebec Lee

2563
02:06:41,660 --> 02:06:39,060
today we have the same thing in somewhat

2564
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:41,670
different form on the Giza Plateau so we

2565
02:06:47,450 --> 02:06:44,130
have the damaged Sphinx we have the

2566
02:06:50,570 --> 02:06:47,460
Sphinx that was heavily eroded at the

2567
02:06:52,700 --> 02:06:50,580
end of the last ice age by the waters

2568
02:06:54,650 --> 02:06:52,710
that were beating down because at the

2569
02:06:59,870 --> 02:06:54,660
end of the last ice age you melted all

2570
02:07:02,870 --> 02:06:59,880
these glaciers you put all this at water

2571
02:07:05,270 --> 02:07:02,880
into the atmosphere moisture that came

2572
02:07:08,810 --> 02:07:05,280
back down is horrendous precipitation

2573
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:08,820
flash floods and furthermore the ancient

2574
02:07:13,790 --> 02:07:11,250
dynastic Egyptians recorded that the

2575
02:07:18,530 --> 02:07:13,800
Sphinx or what I call the produce rings

2576
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:18,540
was quote hit by lightning arm prior to

2577
02:07:24,500 --> 02:07:21,810
the time of Khufu who was the supposed

2578
02:07:27,380 --> 02:07:24,510
builder of the Great Pyramid and

2579
02:07:29,390 --> 02:07:27,390
according to the ecologist the

2580
02:07:31,340 --> 02:07:29,400
Egyptologists say classically that the

2581
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:31,350
Sphinx hadn't even been carved yet yet

2582
02:07:34,900 --> 02:07:33,930
we have the inscriptions that talk about

2583
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:34,910
this

2584
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:37,490
I went and they saw the fossilized

2585
02:07:44,890 --> 02:07:39,770
that's my term they they said preserve

2586
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:44,900
thunderbolt and recently I identified

2587
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:48,410
what I believe is actually evidence of

2588
02:07:55,530 --> 02:07:51,890
vitrification on the Giza Plateau which

2589
02:07:58,540 --> 02:07:55,540
would have been the result of such a

2590
02:08:01,780 --> 02:07:58,550
plasma strike at the end of the last ice

2591
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:01,790
age now all seems to be coming together

2592
02:08:09,340 --> 02:08:05,450
it does we have this occurring and we

2593
02:08:12,010 --> 02:08:09,350
have fields of natural glass or what's

2594
02:08:14,350 --> 02:08:12,020
considered natural glass and when I say

2595
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:14,360
natural glass it doesn't look like nice

2596
02:08:20,590 --> 02:08:17,330
window pane glass but things like the

2597
02:08:22,750 --> 02:08:20,600
doc leg glass or the Libyan desert glass

2598
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:22,760
so those might go back to earlier

2599
02:08:28,180 --> 02:08:25,250
rounded plasma strikes but they cover a

2600
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:28,190
huge fields in some cases 2500 square

2601
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:30,530
kilometers this is not just from

2602
02:08:34,600 --> 02:08:32,570
lightning it's not meteoritic that's

2603
02:08:37,690 --> 02:08:34,610
been there's no evidence of that it's

2604
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:37,700
from being hit by solar outbursts so

2605
02:08:44,710 --> 02:08:42,050
many's inherited if you would uh these

2606
02:08:47,260 --> 02:08:44,720
much older structures and the dynastic

2607
02:08:52,330 --> 02:08:47,270
Egyptians rebuilt them they wreak ARP

2608
02:08:54,580 --> 02:08:52,340
the head on the Sphinx they while I say

2609
02:08:57,160 --> 02:08:54,590
informally mucked about with them but

2610
02:09:01,210 --> 02:08:57,170
they rebuilt them refurbish them and use

2611
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:01,220
them now I know you know I hope jaws is

2612
02:09:04,990 --> 02:09:03,290
listening right now and and his head's

2613
02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:05,000
going to spin and he's going to want to

2614
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:07,520
yell and pound and oh yeah I think

2615
02:09:13,330 --> 02:09:10,370
another step of is a chilled vodka and

2616
02:09:16,990 --> 02:09:13,340
and yell at me like you have a silver

2617
02:09:20,170 --> 02:09:17,000
okay so yes yes yes yes we love him so

2618
02:09:23,500 --> 02:09:20,180
much but I want to suggest this the more

2619
02:09:26,170 --> 02:09:23,510
that I look at this Robert it could is

2620
02:09:29,980 --> 02:09:26,180
there the possibility is the door

2621
02:09:34,900 --> 02:09:29,990
slightly open to that the Kings List the

2622
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:34,910
Pharaohs list is is is wrong that the

2623
02:09:42,790 --> 02:09:38,330
timing of that possibly could stretch

2624
02:09:46,510 --> 02:09:42,800
back to and before NAFTA Playa is there

2625
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:46,520
a possibility of it budding up to okay

2626
02:09:50,950 --> 02:09:48,530
when you look at the Kingsley

2627
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:50,960
US has recorded by the ancient Egyptians

2628
02:09:57,250 --> 02:09:54,170
whether it's and the walls of Abydos or

2629
02:10:00,520 --> 02:09:57,260
the Turin papyrus or some of these other

2630
02:10:03,220 --> 02:10:00,530
lists what's interesting is that they

2631
02:10:05,950 --> 02:10:03,230
list what we now call dynasties the

2632
02:10:09,130 --> 02:10:05,960
lists of the Pharaohs and the concept of

2633
02:10:13,630 --> 02:10:09,140
dynasties is not really used until

2634
02:10:17,050 --> 02:10:13,640
Manito and Ptolemaic times was 300 BC

2635
02:10:20,050 --> 02:10:17,060
everybody let's make this clear 5300 BC

2636
02:10:22,860 --> 02:10:20,060
right so that's relatively new but when

2637
02:10:26,230 --> 02:10:22,870
you look at these lists they talk about

2638
02:10:28,870 --> 02:10:26,240
twenty-five thousand years or so worth

2639
02:10:32,620 --> 02:10:28,880
of Pharaohs they don't have every single

2640
02:10:34,630 --> 02:10:32,630
name but they talk about let's just say

2641
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:34,640
for round numbers twenty-five thousand

2642
02:10:42,040 --> 02:10:38,480
years worth of Pharaohs or followers of

2643
02:10:45,340 --> 02:10:42,050
Horus as they call it sometimes uh and

2644
02:10:48,790 --> 02:10:45,350
various some either they didn't use the

2645
02:10:52,510 --> 02:10:48,800
term dynasties but families rulers that

2646
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:52,520
goes back know incredible amount of time

2647
02:10:59,590 --> 02:10:55,370
well back into the end of the last ice

2648
02:11:01,660 --> 02:10:59,600
age of course the Egyptologist is just

2649
02:11:03,220 --> 02:11:01,670
dismissed this but actually I don't want

2650
02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:03,230
to speak for John Anthony West but he

2651
02:11:08,740 --> 02:11:06,410
and I certainly talked about this and he

2652
02:11:11,740 --> 02:11:08,750
suggested to me more than once that this

2653
02:11:15,340 --> 02:11:11,750
could indicate that the cycle goes back

2654
02:11:20,050 --> 02:11:15,350
so I pointed out I think before one of

2655
02:11:27,340 --> 02:11:20,060
the breaks that 10,000 10,500 that ere

2656
02:11:31,320 --> 02:11:27,350
BC 10,500 BC era was the age of Leo the

2657
02:11:35,170 --> 02:11:31,330
Sphinx looked at Leo in the sky on the

2658
02:11:39,550 --> 02:11:35,180
vernal equinox well the same thing would

2659
02:11:42,010 --> 02:11:39,560
have occurred 26,000 years earlier so is

2660
02:11:45,370 --> 02:11:42,020
it possible that all this goes back

2661
02:11:48,040 --> 02:11:45,380
another processional cycle could some of

2662
02:11:51,760 --> 02:11:48,050
these structures maybe the proto Sphinx

2663
02:11:57,550 --> 02:11:51,770
even go back to not just 10,000 BC

2664
02:11:59,470 --> 02:11:57,560
roughly but 36,000 BC here do you want

2665
02:12:02,280 --> 02:11:59,480
to come out of the closet again yes I do

2666
02:12:05,850 --> 02:12:02,290
let's go for number 7 on the base

2667
02:12:08,580 --> 02:12:05,860
is a strict geology I can't absolutely

2668
02:12:12,660 --> 02:12:08,590
dismiss that or disprove that I'm not

2669
02:12:15,890 --> 02:12:12,670
saying that's the case ah but is it

2670
02:12:20,790 --> 02:12:15,900
possible is it within the realm of

2671
02:12:25,250 --> 02:12:20,800
possibilities I think we have to you

2672
02:12:27,390 --> 02:12:25,260
know we have to be open to all all all

2673
02:12:30,060 --> 02:12:27,400
you know we don't just accept all

2674
02:12:32,700 --> 02:12:30,070
possibilities as probabilities but we

2675
02:12:35,910 --> 02:12:32,710
have to look at it and really think

2676
02:12:38,940 --> 02:12:35,920
about it and one thing that we also have

2677
02:12:42,720 --> 02:12:38,950
to keep taking to account is that the

2678
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:42,730
Sphinx itself to this day when you have

2679
02:12:47,220 --> 02:12:45,490
Sahara Desert conditions or hyper air

2680
02:12:49,920 --> 02:12:47,230
conditions and you've had that in the

2681
02:12:53,160 --> 02:12:49,930
past some as well as more moist periods

2682
02:12:54,630 --> 02:12:53,170
when there's arid conditions as we've

2683
02:12:58,560 --> 02:12:54,640
had for the last five thousand years

2684
02:13:00,750 --> 02:12:58,570
this thinks itself the body gets covered

2685
02:13:04,230 --> 02:13:00,760
with sand the Sphinx enclosure fills up

2686
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:04,240
with sand up to its chin and this is a

2687
02:13:08,580 --> 02:13:05,920
very important point because that

2688
02:13:10,740 --> 02:13:08,590
protects it so that protects it from

2689
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:10,750
further weathering it protects it from

2690
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:14,770
further erosion so there's I don't want

2691
02:13:19,100 --> 02:13:16,330
to say there's no limit to how old it

2692
02:13:23,340 --> 02:13:19,110
could be but could it be even older than

2693
02:13:27,330 --> 02:13:23,350
end of the last ice age could go further

2694
02:13:32,220 --> 02:13:27,340
into the ice a ice age by tens of

2695
02:13:33,900 --> 02:13:32,230
thousands of years john Wes's and i have

2696
02:13:37,860 --> 02:13:33,910
certainly talked about this I'm not

2697
02:13:40,140 --> 02:13:37,870
inclined that way maybe you know by

2698
02:13:43,860 --> 02:13:40,150
doing you can't go back in the closet

2699
02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:43,870
Robert okay so you just came I get back

2700
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:45,970
into the closet oh you can't and see

2701
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:48,130
this is dead but you bring up a really

2702
02:13:57,660 --> 02:13:52,210
real engine but you bring up a really

2703
02:13:59,910 --> 02:13:57,670
good point at 300 BC to go and start to

2704
02:14:02,460 --> 02:13:59,920
archive the history of the dynasties is

2705
02:14:05,310 --> 02:14:02,470
a huge undertaking yeah and and for them

2706
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:05,320
to do that and to lay it out and and try

2707
02:14:09,090 --> 02:14:07,360
to get the names right and collect all

2708
02:14:11,220 --> 02:14:09,100
of the information that they had at 300

2709
02:14:13,110 --> 02:14:11,230
BC is a huge undertaking but that

2710
02:14:15,660 --> 02:14:13,120
doesn't mean that the dating is correct

2711
02:14:16,109 --> 02:14:15,670
they dumped its 3,000 years that's our

2712
02:14:18,839 --> 02:14:16,119
cover

2713
02:14:21,989 --> 02:14:18,849
how can they possibly know what is going

2714
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:21,999
out at 300 BT 3000 years which is the

2715
02:14:26,850 --> 02:14:24,610
most recent 3000 years and at that time

2716
02:14:28,889 --> 02:14:26,860
they're even talking about how things

2717
02:14:30,659 --> 02:14:28,899
could go that there was more that they

2718
02:14:34,229 --> 02:14:30,669
didn't cover that goes back even earlier

2719
02:14:36,689 --> 02:14:34,239
and what is okay now and now that we've

2720
02:14:37,350 --> 02:14:36,699
firmly established that and I really

2721
02:14:41,279 --> 02:14:37,360
mean that

2722
02:14:44,009 --> 02:14:41,289
I just don't it cannot be accurate

2723
02:14:45,929 --> 02:14:44,019
it just can't that the names of the

2724
02:14:49,350 --> 02:14:45,939
dynasties and the pharaohs okay that's

2725
02:14:51,060 --> 02:14:49,360
fine but to pin it down to just a 3,000

2726
02:14:53,489 --> 02:14:51,070
year period I think is outrageous it

2727
02:14:54,989 --> 02:14:53,499
could be 6,000 years it could be 9,000

2728
02:14:56,909 --> 02:14:54,999
years oh yeah this is part of the

2729
02:14:59,819 --> 02:14:56,919
problem with the chronologies of the

2730
02:15:01,979 --> 02:14:59,829
Pharaohs and if you look at modern

2731
02:15:04,290 --> 02:15:01,989
Egyptology and when I say modern

2732
02:15:04,859 --> 02:15:04,300
Egyptology I'm talking in the last 200

2733
02:15:07,439 --> 02:15:04,869
years

2734
02:15:10,889 --> 02:15:07,449
there have been incredible disagreements

2735
02:15:13,049 --> 02:15:10,899
as to what when Pharaohs lived in terms

2736
02:15:16,649 --> 02:15:13,059
of absolute dates more or less how long

2737
02:15:20,250 --> 02:15:16,659
ago is varied all over the place of the

2738
02:15:23,189 --> 02:15:20,260
early Egyptologists actually placed the

2739
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:23,199
Pharaohs or the earliest Pharaohs back

2740
02:15:28,679 --> 02:15:26,010
thousands of years earlier than modern

2741
02:15:31,619 --> 02:15:28,689
Egyptologists do modern Egyptologists

2742
02:15:34,589 --> 02:15:31,629
have tended to compress it into one also

2743
02:15:36,359 --> 02:15:34,599
we have a situation where just because

2744
02:15:37,549 --> 02:15:36,369
you have a pharaoh named such and such

2745
02:15:40,049 --> 02:15:37,559
that doesn't mean you're necessarily

2746
02:15:42,689 --> 02:15:40,059
talking about the same person more or

2747
02:15:45,149 --> 02:15:42,699
less more than one theorem we know this

2748
02:15:47,459 --> 02:15:45,159
from ramasees etc you know there's a

2749
02:15:48,989 --> 02:15:47,469
number with the same name and we know

2750
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:48,999
that but could there be other cases

2751
02:15:54,270 --> 02:15:51,760
where there was more than one so which

2752
02:15:56,279 --> 02:15:54,280
go back much further yeah I mean you

2753
02:16:00,209 --> 02:15:56,289
have the Greek and Roman calendars right

2754
02:16:03,389 --> 02:16:00,219
with 100 BC 6-under BC but but once you

2755
02:16:06,270 --> 02:16:03,399
go beyond that but it's your guess as

2756
02:16:08,449 --> 02:16:06,280
good as mine yeah well no some people's

2757
02:16:10,859 --> 02:16:08,459
guesses might be a little better okay

2758
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:10,869
I'm just joking you know but it's real

2759
02:16:18,060 --> 02:16:15,119
internal I know but it is that we really

2760
02:16:22,319 --> 02:16:18,070
there's a lot of assumptions there and

2761
02:16:24,029 --> 02:16:22,329
there are a lot of assertions and you

2762
02:16:25,860 --> 02:16:24,039
know it actually drives me a little

2763
02:16:29,190 --> 02:16:25,870
crazy and I

2764
02:16:31,710 --> 02:16:29,200
and then agree with you on this when you

2765
02:16:33,570 --> 02:16:31,720
get these I'll just say Egypt colleges

2766
02:16:36,390 --> 02:16:33,580
are historians and they tell you

2767
02:16:39,330 --> 02:16:36,400
precisely Oh so-and-so ruled from this

2768
02:16:41,550 --> 02:16:39,340
year to this year as if somehow they

2769
02:16:43,710 --> 02:16:41,560
know for certain and they don't there's

2770
02:16:47,010 --> 02:16:43,720
just no way and you know what even the

2771
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:47,020
Egyptologists disagree too as well it's

2772
02:16:51,720 --> 02:16:49,210
not internally consistent within the

2773
02:16:54,690 --> 02:16:51,730
field not at all not at all now I want

2774
02:16:59,300 --> 02:16:54,700
to talk about NAFTA playa and the reason

2775
02:17:03,630 --> 02:16:59,310
why NAFTA playa is a very very very

2776
02:17:05,700 --> 02:17:03,640
significant place time that is not

2777
02:17:09,150 --> 02:17:05,710
discussed at all I mean you really have

2778
02:17:11,460 --> 02:17:09,160
to dig deep into Egypt history to know

2779
02:17:15,300 --> 02:17:11,470
anything about knapped apply at all but

2780
02:17:17,880 --> 02:17:15,310
when Robert Bauval said at the panel and

2781
02:17:21,740 --> 02:17:17,890
I know you remember I freaked out I did

2782
02:17:24,660 --> 02:17:21,750
not know this then Zahi Hawass moved

2783
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:24,670
NAFTA playa now for everybody out there

2784
02:17:30,690 --> 02:17:28,450
NAFTA Playa was a little baby Stonehenge

2785
02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:30,700
it was a calendar in the middle of the

2786
02:17:37,350 --> 02:17:33,490
desert that has been dated to around

2787
02:17:41,100 --> 02:17:37,360
8000 BC when there was a lake there how

2788
02:17:43,740 --> 02:17:41,110
can somebody move a site like knapped

2789
02:17:47,791 --> 02:17:43,750
apply for any reason and not go to jail

2790
02:17:51,090 --> 02:17:47,801
I mean seriously I mean I it's a crime

2791
02:17:53,970 --> 02:17:51,100
it's a crime yeah I agree I agree with

2792
02:17:57,300 --> 02:17:53,980
you and and the problem with it or the

2793
02:18:00,390 --> 02:17:57,310
issue is not just that the rocks were

2794
02:18:04,610 --> 02:18:00,400
moved and moved about but they weren't

2795
02:18:07,170 --> 02:18:04,620
they were moved without being properly

2796
02:18:09,780 --> 02:18:07,180
positioned without getting their proper

2797
02:18:10,560 --> 02:18:09,790
orientation initially because Knapp

2798
02:18:13,890 --> 02:18:10,570
Tobiah

2799
02:18:16,020 --> 02:18:13,900
those stones there you described as a

2800
02:18:19,560 --> 02:18:16,030
baby Stonehenge and that is a good

2801
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:19,570
analogy on more than one level it's a

2802
02:18:25,560 --> 02:18:22,210
Stonehenge type circular structure not

2803
02:18:26,640 --> 02:18:25,570
unlike Quebec Lee Tepe - but unlike

2804
02:18:28,620 --> 02:18:26,650
gobekli tepe

2805
02:18:32,010 --> 02:18:28,630
in that we do not have beautifully

2806
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:32,020
carved stones they're just rough crude

2807
02:18:38,459 --> 02:18:34,810
stones like the like Stonehenge in

2808
02:18:42,089 --> 02:18:38,469
England but much much smaller

2809
02:18:44,900 --> 02:18:42,099
and the whole point of nafta playa was

2810
02:18:48,360 --> 02:18:44,910
the orientations the precise

2811
02:18:51,870 --> 02:18:48,370
orientations of the stones not any kind

2812
02:18:53,790 --> 02:18:51,880
of carving on them our release like we

2813
02:18:57,330 --> 02:18:53,800
have at Quebec Lee Tepe

2814
02:19:01,129 --> 02:18:57,340
so any site if you have stones that

2815
02:19:03,330 --> 02:19:01,139
oriented it's important to keep those

2816
02:19:05,190 --> 02:19:03,340
orientations and to record them

2817
02:19:07,169 --> 02:19:05,200
precisely and the best way to keep the

2818
02:19:12,750 --> 02:19:07,179
orientations is not to move the stones

2819
02:19:16,379 --> 02:19:12,760
and the case of NAFTA playa from as I

2820
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:16,389
understand it the stones were not

2821
02:19:22,500 --> 02:19:19,889
recorded properly as to their precise

2822
02:19:24,240 --> 02:19:22,510
orientations and then they were moved

2823
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:24,250
they were picked up and they were moved

2824
02:19:30,150 --> 02:19:27,130
and a lot of this information was

2825
02:19:33,870 --> 02:19:30,160
potentially lost now Thomas Brophy who I

2826
02:19:36,349 --> 02:19:33,880
mentioned before um has spent a lot of

2827
02:19:39,059 --> 02:19:36,359
time working on that to Playa and

2828
02:19:43,290 --> 02:19:39,069
combing through photographs and litter

2829
02:19:45,269 --> 02:19:43,300
and whatnot to reconstruct exactly what

2830
02:19:47,190 --> 02:19:45,279
was going on and the results are

2831
02:19:49,889 --> 02:19:47,200
astounding again you have this Orion

2832
02:19:52,979 --> 02:19:49,899
correlation you have things going back

2833
02:19:55,260 --> 02:19:52,989
to a remote period and you have

2834
02:20:00,090 --> 02:19:55,270
essentially the same story with

2835
02:20:02,070 --> 02:20:00,100
different forms at NAFTA Playa and again

2836
02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:02,080
it shows that supplier shows a

2837
02:20:06,090 --> 02:20:04,210
sophistication that technically

2838
02:20:08,370 --> 02:20:06,100
according to historians just wasn't

2839
02:20:11,580 --> 02:20:08,380
supposed to exist exactly and it's not

2840
02:20:14,219 --> 02:20:11,590
an obvious sophistication NAFTA Playa I

2841
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:14,229
do want to say that because to the

2842
02:20:18,660 --> 02:20:16,210
average eye it looks like a bunch of

2843
02:20:21,710 --> 02:20:18,670
stones and a circle on the ground the

2844
02:20:24,570 --> 02:20:21,720
sophistication is in the orientation run

2845
02:20:27,840 --> 02:20:24,580
analysis that's been carried out unlike

2846
02:20:31,260 --> 02:20:27,850
gobekli tepe where you look at it and

2847
02:20:35,059 --> 02:20:31,270
you see sophistication right away with

2848
02:20:38,729 --> 02:20:35,069
the sharp cut corners with the

2849
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:38,739
anthropomorphic pillars with the hands

2850
02:20:43,219 --> 02:20:40,810
down by the navel with the belt the

2851
02:20:46,099 --> 02:20:43,229
loincloth the beautiful carvings of

2852
02:20:49,500 --> 02:20:46,109
animals and abstract forms or the

2853
02:20:51,450 --> 02:20:49,510
sophistication you see at Giza for the

2854
02:20:52,080 --> 02:20:51,460
earliest structures with of course the

2855
02:20:53,520 --> 02:20:52,090
Sphinx

2856
02:20:57,090 --> 02:20:53,530
and though the head has been recarved

2857
02:21:00,900 --> 02:20:57,100
but also the Sphinx temple and the

2858
02:21:03,810 --> 02:21:00,910
valley temple these huge well they're

2859
02:21:06,990 --> 02:21:03,820
not huge temples these these incredible

2860
02:21:10,110 --> 02:21:07,000
temples carved out of are constructed

2861
02:21:15,870 --> 02:21:10,120
from huge limestone blocks which also go

2862
02:21:17,429 --> 02:21:15,880
back to the 10,000 10,500 BC era because

2863
02:21:21,570 --> 02:21:17,439
they're contemporaneous would see

2864
02:21:26,150 --> 02:21:21,580
original Sphinx I want to kind of end

2865
02:21:29,370 --> 02:21:26,160
the show on this to get your opinion the

2866
02:21:31,560 --> 02:21:29,380
this kind of ties everything together

2867
02:21:35,340 --> 02:21:31,570
that we have been talking about tonight

2868
02:21:38,400 --> 02:21:35,350
not only the 10,000 BC end of the last

2869
02:21:42,889 --> 02:21:38,410
ice age the the civilizations that came

2870
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:42,899
before it but Egypt by any measure

2871
02:21:49,560 --> 02:21:46,570
appeared in the desert an upright and

2872
02:21:53,010 --> 02:21:49,570
fully functional and badass civilization

2873
02:21:57,719 --> 02:21:53,020
they're their best stuff is their oldest

2874
02:21:59,639 --> 02:21:57,729
stuff well okay but this but let me let

2875
02:22:02,160 --> 02:21:59,649
me finish the question yeah see I know

2876
02:22:04,730 --> 02:22:02,170
you're passionate about it oh and then

2877
02:22:07,380 --> 02:22:04,740
and then we saw the steady degradation

2878
02:22:08,179 --> 02:22:07,390
that that happened over a 3,000 year

2879
02:22:12,090 --> 02:22:08,189
period

2880
02:22:14,639 --> 02:22:12,100
how is it possible I want you to answer

2881
02:22:17,429 --> 02:22:14,649
all of those skeptics out there how is

2882
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:17,439
it possible for an upright civilization

2883
02:22:25,290 --> 02:22:21,130
to just appear at 3,000 BC the way that

2884
02:22:30,090 --> 02:22:25,300
we they want us to swallow it they want

2885
02:22:34,380 --> 02:22:30,100
us to just believe that dogma my answer

2886
02:22:37,980 --> 02:22:34,390
is that is new Egyptians did not just

2887
02:22:41,610 --> 02:22:37,990
appear in 3000 BC what happened as they

2888
02:22:44,849 --> 02:22:41,620
reappeared in 3000 BC if you would so

2889
02:22:47,070 --> 02:22:44,859
let me explain we have this ancient

2890
02:22:49,860 --> 02:22:47,080
civilization we've been talking about

2891
02:22:53,130 --> 02:22:49,870
before the end of the last ice age it's

2892
02:22:55,980 --> 02:22:53,140
incredibly sophisticated it's building

2893
02:22:58,410 --> 02:22:55,990
the Sphinx or the protis Fink's in Egypt

2894
02:23:00,300 --> 02:22:58,420
carving it out of the bedrock building

2895
02:23:04,530 --> 02:23:00,310
these huge temples out of limestone

2896
02:23:05,790 --> 02:23:04,540
blocks which date back to that early

2897
02:23:07,650 --> 02:23:05,800
period we

2898
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:07,660
have Quebec leet a pay which is

2899
02:23:13,020 --> 02:23:10,210
incredibly sophisticated we have NAFTA

2900
02:23:15,809 --> 02:23:13,030
Playa we have good on Padang in

2901
02:23:19,620 --> 02:23:15,819
Indonesia which we won't get into today

2902
02:23:23,849 --> 02:23:19,630
all of this is decimated at the end of

2903
02:23:26,400 --> 02:23:23,859
the last ice age 9700 BC by huge solar

2904
02:23:28,760 --> 02:23:26,410
outbursts solar flares coronal mass

2905
02:23:31,440 --> 02:23:28,770
ejections all this type of thing and

2906
02:23:35,880 --> 02:23:31,450
civilization goes into a tailspin

2907
02:23:38,940 --> 02:23:35,890
it goes into a Dark Age what we are now

2908
02:23:43,940 --> 02:23:38,950
calling Siddha the solar induced Dark

2909
02:23:47,910 --> 02:23:43,950
Age that lasts for good 6,000 plus years

2910
02:23:51,330 --> 02:23:47,920
in age of close to 7,000 years and it's

2911
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:51,340
not just a sudden appearance it's a rien

2912
02:23:58,110 --> 02:23:54,490
sits a reawakening just like Europe came

2913
02:24:00,929 --> 02:23:58,120
out of the Dark Ages in the 14th 15th

2914
02:24:02,910 --> 02:24:00,939
century and all of a sudden you had this

2915
02:24:04,440 --> 02:24:02,920
incredible Renaissance we call it the

2916
02:24:07,980 --> 02:24:04,450
Renaissance this is what was happening

2917
02:24:10,590 --> 02:24:07,990
in Egypt in 3000 or so BC it was a

2918
02:24:13,020 --> 02:24:10,600
reawakening it was a reimburse of

2919
02:24:16,290 --> 02:24:13,030
civilization was a renaissance and the

2920
02:24:19,559 --> 02:24:16,300
Egyptians the ancient dynastic Egyptians

2921
02:24:22,230 --> 02:24:19,569
tell us this explicitly it's just that

2922
02:24:24,450 --> 02:24:22,240
the Egyptologists never believed it they

2923
02:24:27,510 --> 02:24:24,460
talked about septembe they talked about

2924
02:24:29,580 --> 02:24:27,520
the time of the quote gods of the

2925
02:24:32,670 --> 02:24:29,590
earlier civilization they traced

2926
02:24:34,349 --> 02:24:32,680
everything back to that but you know

2927
02:24:36,540 --> 02:24:34,359
Egyptologists have always had the

2928
02:24:38,429 --> 02:24:36,550
opinion that they know best and they

2929
02:24:40,889 --> 02:24:38,439
know more about ancient Egypt than the

2930
02:24:43,830 --> 02:24:40,899
ancient Egyptians knew well the tweets

2931
02:24:45,870 --> 02:24:43,840
just went out from the fader not to Zahi

2932
02:24:51,059 --> 02:24:45,880
directly did you really move this to

2933
02:24:52,889 --> 02:24:51,069
another location man man he'll never be

2934
02:24:55,710 --> 02:24:52,899
a guest on this show I can tell ya I

2935
02:24:57,450 --> 02:24:55,720
think I say one thing people ask well

2936
02:24:59,099 --> 02:24:57,460
how did people survive the solar

2937
02:25:01,950 --> 02:24:59,109
outbursts where did they go

2938
02:25:04,500 --> 02:25:01,960
one example is Cappadocia the way to

2939
02:25:07,740 --> 02:25:04,510
survive was to go underground and we see

2940
02:25:09,330 --> 02:25:07,750
this throughout this early period just

2941
02:25:11,730 --> 02:25:09,340
following the last ice age where people

2942
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:11,740
we're going underground they were doing

2943
02:25:17,429 --> 02:25:14,399
large structures to protect themselves

2944
02:25:19,320 --> 02:25:17,439
even here in North America even here in

2945
02:25:22,110 --> 02:25:19,330
North America absolutely

2946
02:25:25,980 --> 02:25:22,120
all around the globe so what's up for

2947
02:25:27,960 --> 02:25:25,990
you next my friend oh I'm writing I'm

2948
02:25:30,450 --> 02:25:27,970
working on writing I'm trying to I'm

2949
02:25:32,970 --> 02:25:30,460
hoping to basically spend the summer

2950
02:25:37,020 --> 02:25:32,980
writing finishing up some new books that

2951
02:25:39,540 --> 02:25:37,030
type of thing including working the one

2952
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:39,550
on Quebec we kept a I just let something

2953
02:25:46,250 --> 02:25:43,090
else out at the head thank you so much

2954
02:25:50,011 --> 02:25:46,260
let's look for that in the meantime

2955
02:25:51,810 --> 02:25:50,021
forgotten civilization you know I'm

2956
02:25:54,360 --> 02:25:51,820
hoping people will take a look at that

2957
02:25:56,640 --> 02:25:54,370
they haven't already forgotten

2958
02:25:58,410 --> 02:25:56,650
civilization the role solar outbursts in

2959
02:26:01,560 --> 02:25:58,420
our past and future and that talks about

2960
02:26:04,950 --> 02:26:01,570
the Sun and the Rango Rango and the end

2961
02:26:07,261 --> 02:26:04,960
of the last ice age and covers material

2962
02:26:10,110 --> 02:26:07,271
that we were talking about today also as

2963
02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:10,120
you know I have a book out with Robert

2964
02:26:14,250 --> 02:26:11,650
Bauval called called

2965
02:26:17,640 --> 02:26:14,260
origins of the Sphinx which really

2966
02:26:21,180 --> 02:26:17,650
focuses just on the Sphinx and the age

2967
02:26:23,220 --> 02:26:21,190
of the Sphinx which underpins ah and

2968
02:26:25,530 --> 02:26:23,230
really was the foundation is the

2969
02:26:28,530 --> 02:26:25,540
foundation for so much the new thinking

2970
02:26:30,690 --> 02:26:28,540
on how far back civilization goes you

2971
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:30,700
know we didn't get into demigods tonight

2972
02:26:36,320 --> 02:26:33,130
you know so we'll save all of that for

2973
02:26:38,790 --> 02:26:36,330
another for another time exactly exactly

2974
02:26:41,940 --> 02:26:38,800
thank you so much Robert and give my

2975
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:41,950
best to Katie and again everybody it's

2976
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:45,490
Robert Schoch calm and say goodnight and

2977
02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:47,530
say gobekli tepe one last time

2978
02:26:52,410 --> 02:26:50,410
Gobekli Tepe you're the best Robert

2979
02:26:54,690 --> 02:26:52,420
don't ever change my friend always fine

2980
02:26:56,670 --> 02:26:54,700
it's always great to be on the show

2981
02:27:00,900 --> 02:26:56,680
thank you so much Robert be safe out

2982
02:27:03,030 --> 02:27:00,910
there you too Robert Schoch everybody

2983
02:27:05,790 --> 02:27:03,040
now his web sites are over at Jimmy

2984
02:27:07,950 --> 02:27:05,800
Church radio calm very simple going

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02:27:10,440 --> 02:27:07,960
click all the books are there I do have

2986
02:27:13,500 --> 02:27:10,450
the new book I here with a Robert Bauval

2987
02:27:16,500 --> 02:27:13,510
and it specifically gets into the

2988
02:27:18,720 --> 02:27:16,510
demigods and the origins of the Sphinx

2989
02:27:20,850 --> 02:27:18,730
great book go to his website check

2990
02:27:23,190 --> 02:27:20,860
everything out this is fade to black I

2991
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:23,200
ignored phone calls I'll take some next

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three to three a two five five zero four

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five or

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3066
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Robert Schoch just looking at the tweet

3067
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here best show of the year yeah it was a

3068
02:31:51,341 --> 02:31:50,841
it's right up there right up there right

3069
02:31:56,171 --> 02:31:51,351
up there

3070
02:32:02,560 --> 02:31:56,181
okay so the gobekli tepe count according

3071
02:32:05,531 --> 02:32:02,570
to Jason is 81 seed some Sun that said

3072
02:32:07,900 --> 02:32:05,541
it was over 100 how you guys doing that

3073
02:32:11,110 --> 02:32:07,910
was amazing just an amazing show he is

3074
02:32:13,871 --> 02:32:11,120
just you know education was part of it

3075
02:32:16,031 --> 02:32:13,881
but he just he gets it you know he gets

3076
02:32:21,551 --> 02:32:16,041
it so anyway I'm going to open up the

3077
02:32:25,060 --> 02:32:21,561
phone lines 3 2 3 a 2 5 5 0 4 5 or 3 2 3

3078
02:32:29,140 --> 02:32:25,070
2 7 5 9 6 9 5 would you think of the

3079
02:32:32,051 --> 02:32:29,150
shock and all gobekli tepe special event

3080
02:32:34,291 --> 02:32:32,061
with the dr. Robert M shock a couple of

3081
02:32:38,980 --> 02:32:34,301
points that I want to drive home here

3082
02:32:47,291 --> 02:32:38,990
the the Pharaohs list the the dynastic

3083
02:32:50,440 --> 02:32:47,301
list that was created at 300 BC look it

3084
02:32:53,291 --> 02:32:50,450
did that is a monstrosity of an effort

3085
02:32:55,810 --> 02:32:53,301
even if if somebody had to do it today

3086
02:32:57,430 --> 02:32:55,820
and go through all of the temples and

3087
02:32:59,470 --> 02:32:57,440
all the information that was there and

3088
02:33:01,600 --> 02:32:59,480
tried to pin and pin this down and try

3089
02:33:05,171 --> 02:33:01,610
to collect all the information it would

3090
02:33:08,501 --> 02:33:05,181
be just an enormous task and I can't

3091
02:33:11,250 --> 02:33:08,511
imagine having to do that at 300 BC

3092
02:33:15,330 --> 02:33:11,260
right in the middle of the Greek period

3093
02:33:17,370 --> 02:33:15,340
and the going around to all of the

3094
02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:17,380
different sites and trying to collect

3095
02:33:22,469 --> 02:33:19,270
the papyrus and and and get something

3096
02:33:26,250 --> 02:33:22,479
accurate well it's there now we have a

3097
02:33:32,400 --> 02:33:26,260
couple of different lists but going back

3098
02:33:35,160 --> 02:33:32,410
to men a menace a possibly Narmer is

3099
02:33:38,179 --> 02:33:35,170
there a dynasty zero that part of it

3100
02:33:42,740 --> 02:33:38,189
doesn't matter my point is and I will

3101
02:33:45,420 --> 02:33:42,750
just yell and yell about this you cannot

3102
02:33:48,510 --> 02:33:45,430
take that information and then

3103
02:33:54,059 --> 02:33:48,520
accurately go back and pin down a date

3104
02:33:58,349 --> 02:33:54,069
of 3000 BC 3100 BC Yukie it's just it's

3105
02:34:02,219 --> 02:33:58,359
it's a lie and and forcing us to accept

3106
02:34:06,389 --> 02:34:02,229
that as as truth in fact is is just

3107
02:34:08,610 --> 02:34:06,399
wrong I I look at that it could be and

3108
02:34:11,700 --> 02:34:08,620
if you think about this covering a 3,000

3109
02:34:15,420 --> 02:34:11,710
year period if you just start to add or

3110
02:34:18,809 --> 02:34:15,430
subtract and add years and decades to

3111
02:34:20,340 --> 02:34:18,819
these dynastic periods you could stretch

3112
02:34:24,960 --> 02:34:20,350
that you could double it you can go to

3113
02:34:27,389 --> 02:34:24,970
6000 BC without even blinking and it

3114
02:34:30,660 --> 02:34:27,399
could go further back than that and it

3115
02:34:34,380 --> 02:34:30,670
answers so many different questions if

3116
02:34:39,870 --> 02:34:34,390
you if you remove that my point is we

3117
02:34:42,330 --> 02:34:39,880
need to stress this at 2700 BC 20 650 BC

3118
02:34:44,490 --> 02:34:42,340
and for those Egyptologists that are

3119
02:34:46,260 --> 02:34:44,500
listening to me right now or the

3120
02:34:47,670 --> 02:34:46,270
historians that are listening to my

3121
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:47,680
voice right now and they want to argue

3122
02:34:58,080 --> 02:34:54,250
this point it is improper for you to

3123
02:35:01,050 --> 02:34:58,090
suggest to us that at 2650 BC that 300

3124
02:35:05,190 --> 02:35:01,060
year period between 3000 BC and 20 650

3125
02:35:08,719 --> 02:35:05,200
BC that all of this magic happened the

3126
02:35:12,660 --> 02:35:08,729
the amazing technology it just happened

3127
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:12,670
Napa Playa and let's be very specific

3128
02:35:22,019 --> 02:35:16,090
here that's at 8,000 BC and we're

3129
02:35:24,330 --> 02:35:22,029
talking about a nomadic life right where

3130
02:35:25,109 --> 02:35:24,340
you are chasing the water and you are

3131
02:35:28,409 --> 02:35:25,119
struggling

3132
02:35:32,010 --> 02:35:28,419
for survival okay now if you want us to

3133
02:35:36,779 --> 02:35:32,020
accept that that suddenly meant as many

3134
02:35:39,539 --> 02:35:36,789
at 3:30 100 BC upper and lower egypt are

3135
02:35:41,519 --> 02:35:39,549
united and suddenly there was a

3136
02:35:43,139 --> 02:35:41,529
population there was a culture and there

3137
02:35:44,849 --> 02:35:43,149
was a technology there was a writing

3138
02:35:48,059 --> 02:35:44,859
there was a sophistication that went

3139
02:35:54,239 --> 02:35:48,069
from chasing water in the desert -

3140
02:35:56,909 --> 02:35:54,249
suddenly constructing the this not only

3141
02:35:59,760 --> 02:35:56,919
Giza but but everything with such

3142
02:36:02,639 --> 02:35:59,770
sophistication that they knew how to do

3143
02:36:06,659 --> 02:36:02,649
all of this it doesn't fit now and we

3144
02:36:09,899 --> 02:36:06,669
don't accept it now I just have a hard

3145
02:36:11,459 --> 02:36:09,909
time the other point Robert and I didn't

3146
02:36:14,340 --> 02:36:11,469
get a chance to get into this tonight

3147
02:36:18,539 --> 02:36:14,350
but I promise I will do it in the future

3148
02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:18,549
but I've discussed it before it's a

3149
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:22,479
numbers game it's purely a numbers game

3150
02:36:29,219 --> 02:36:26,770
from 3100 now if you go and and look at

3151
02:36:34,349 --> 02:36:29,229
the numbers the numbers that are

3152
02:36:37,499 --> 02:36:34,359
presented right now 3100 BC 2 0 2 years

3153
02:36:39,749 --> 02:36:37,509
0 that three thousand years five hundred

3154
02:36:42,209 --> 02:36:39,759
million people lived and died in Egypt

3155
02:36:44,219 --> 02:36:42,219
now that's a large number and it's a

3156
02:36:46,189 --> 02:36:44,229
number that you go wow okay yeah they

3157
02:36:49,529 --> 02:36:46,199
got it done they had a populate know

3158
02:36:52,949 --> 02:36:49,539
that five hundred million is over three

3159
02:36:55,889 --> 02:36:52,959
thousand years and the population ramped

3160
02:36:59,010 --> 02:36:55,899
up at three thousand BC there wasn't

3161
02:37:03,029 --> 02:36:59,020
anybody living there if you listen to

3162
02:37:06,510 --> 02:37:03,039
them so when when men a and upper and

3163
02:37:08,519 --> 02:37:06,520
lower egypt merged right whether there

3164
02:37:13,499 --> 02:37:08,529
was a war or not we don't know the

3165
02:37:17,579 --> 02:37:13,509
Narmer of Stone says some things there's

3166
02:37:21,329 --> 02:37:17,589
only one it's two-sided but that the

3167
02:37:23,279 --> 02:37:21,339
population was very small now either it

3168
02:37:26,099 --> 02:37:23,289
is the way that Egyptologists are

3169
02:37:29,909 --> 02:37:26,109
presenting to us where it was a nomadic

3170
02:37:32,369 --> 02:37:29,919
lifestyle and there wasn't you know

3171
02:37:35,359 --> 02:37:32,379
armies there was no chariots and and

3172
02:37:38,500 --> 02:37:35,369
things at 3,000 BC it didn't exist so

3173
02:37:41,559 --> 02:37:38,510
how did all of this get done

3174
02:37:45,040 --> 02:37:41,569
suddenly in the middle of nowhere we

3175
02:37:49,719 --> 02:37:45,050
have this upright beautiful

3176
02:37:51,370 --> 02:37:49,729
sophisticated civilization it couldn't

3177
02:37:53,679 --> 02:37:51,380
have happened that way

3178
02:37:58,389 --> 02:37:53,689
it was much older and it developed over

3179
02:38:01,420 --> 02:37:58,399
time and and going back a pre Ice Age it

3180
02:38:03,429 --> 02:38:01,430
has to be that way it cannot be the

3181
02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:03,439
traditional dogma that were fed it

3182
02:38:09,370 --> 02:38:06,290
cannot and listening to robber presented

3183
02:38:13,690 --> 02:38:09,380
that way it just makes sense it makes

3184
02:38:16,870 --> 02:38:13,700
sense all right okay man on my soapbox

3185
02:38:20,070 --> 02:38:16,880
but it is just it is just the way that

3186
02:38:24,120 --> 02:38:20,080
it is I think John Anthony Wesson and

3187
02:38:26,950 --> 02:38:24,130
Robert Bauval and and and of course

3188
02:38:28,929 --> 02:38:26,960
Hancock and and all the other great

3189
02:38:32,200 --> 02:38:28,939
researchers that have been looking into

3190
02:38:35,050 --> 02:38:32,210
this over the years it's just it's just

3191
02:38:36,370 --> 02:38:35,060
the way that it is Zahi Hawass man I

3192
02:38:39,340 --> 02:38:36,380
can't believe that we sent that tweet

3193
02:38:43,240 --> 02:38:39,350
out to him he's probably blowing a

3194
02:38:45,550 --> 02:38:43,250
gasket right now and I don't mind I

3195
02:38:47,500 --> 02:38:45,560
don't mind I don't mind rocking rocking

3196
02:38:51,150 --> 02:38:47,510
the boat on this one

3197
02:38:55,269 --> 02:38:51,160
he also brought up Thor and the thing is

3198
02:38:59,200 --> 02:38:55,279
when Thor built he built two boats out

3199
02:39:01,660 --> 02:38:59,210
of papyrus Reed's raw and raw to and he

3200
02:39:05,920 --> 02:39:01,670
sailed them from the Mediterranean over

3201
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:05,930
to the Caribbean to prove raw to that

3202
02:39:12,190 --> 02:39:09,050
there was a transoceanic culture and the

3203
02:39:16,030 --> 02:39:12,200
possibility that it did happen he got

3204
02:39:20,349 --> 02:39:16,040
that baby to Bermuda man and and it was

3205
02:39:23,800 --> 02:39:20,359
sinking but he got it there the it

3206
02:39:25,300 --> 02:39:23,810
answers so many so many questions but we

3207
02:39:27,969 --> 02:39:25,310
got to move that over to Easter Island

3208
02:39:31,510 --> 02:39:27,979
too as well where the same possibilities

3209
02:39:33,460 --> 02:39:31,520
are there what they are trying what

3210
02:39:36,040 --> 02:39:33,470
historians are trying to tell us is that

3211
02:39:38,769 --> 02:39:36,050
they they had canoes and like Robert had

3212
02:39:41,230 --> 02:39:38,779
said I want to get back to that point

3213
02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:41,240
that they were grabbing on the logs and

3214
02:39:45,010 --> 02:39:43,130
coconuts and floating around the ocean

3215
02:39:49,809 --> 02:39:45,020
and that's how Easter Island was

3216
02:39:50,849 --> 02:39:49,819
populated no no there were boats there

3217
02:39:53,399 --> 02:39:50,859
was you know

3218
02:39:56,219 --> 02:39:53,409
I'm talking about sailboat I mean real

3219
02:39:58,739 --> 02:39:56,229
ocean faring ocean-going boats and

3220
02:40:01,710 --> 02:39:58,749
that's what happened at Easter Island

3221
02:40:05,519 --> 02:40:01,720
could it have come out of Pakistan the

3222
02:40:08,159 --> 02:40:05,529
the writing on the Rapanui though that

3223
02:40:09,869 --> 02:40:08,169
what is happening at Easter Island with

3224
02:40:13,380 --> 02:40:09,879
that language that we don't understand

3225
02:40:15,569 --> 02:40:13,390
it's it's it's never been translated but

3226
02:40:18,750 --> 02:40:15,579
it looks very similar to what was in

3227
02:40:21,119 --> 02:40:18,760
Pakistan but that's 10,000 miles away so

3228
02:40:23,460 --> 02:40:21,129
how do we answer those questions the

3229
02:40:25,170 --> 02:40:23,470
same things with Easter Island that's

3230
02:40:28,109 --> 02:40:25,180
why we started off with Easter Island

3231
02:40:30,149 --> 02:40:28,119
tonight the same considerations that we

3232
02:40:33,599 --> 02:40:30,159
have at Easter Island that we have at

3233
02:40:37,229 --> 02:40:33,609
Giza that we have a ball back that we

3234
02:40:40,649 --> 02:40:37,239
have down in Peru where these giant

3235
02:40:43,409 --> 02:40:40,659
giant megalithic stones were moved and

3236
02:40:45,689 --> 02:40:43,419
carved by civilizations that quite

3237
02:40:47,510 --> 02:40:45,699
simply couldn't do it back then and to

3238
02:40:50,250 --> 02:40:47,520
do it today we would have huge

3239
02:40:52,979 --> 02:40:50,260
difficulties in trying to complete those

3240
02:40:55,019 --> 02:40:52,989
tasks and that's where we are today

3241
02:40:56,519 --> 02:40:55,029
we're starting to figure that out it's

3242
02:40:59,819 --> 02:40:56,529
not only shows like this but it's

3243
02:41:01,859 --> 02:40:59,829
researchers like like shocked and

3244
02:41:03,119 --> 02:41:01,869
Hancock and Bauval I keep pointing to

3245
02:41:05,010 --> 02:41:03,129
those three there's a whole handful I

3246
02:41:09,210 --> 02:41:05,020
don't need to go down the entire list

3247
02:41:11,699 --> 02:41:09,220
but that we are starting to accept we

3248
02:41:15,090 --> 02:41:11,709
cannot believe what we have been told I

3249
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:15,100
like this mark torrontés reposted this

3250
02:41:19,349 --> 02:41:18,010
again Easter Island and stone edge with

3251
02:41:21,389 --> 02:41:19,359
the head in the toes that's actually

3252
02:41:22,949 --> 02:41:21,399
pretty cool I kind of dig that I'm going

3253
02:41:25,889 --> 02:41:22,959
to retweet it I didn't do it earlier

3254
02:41:28,170 --> 02:41:25,899
that's a pretty good illustration and

3255
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:28,180
the fact that it's actually lined up

3256
02:41:33,179 --> 02:41:30,970
correctly to but but that is the point

3257
02:41:36,149 --> 02:41:33,189
that we are starting to understand more

3258
02:41:38,609 --> 02:41:36,159
and more today right the more that we

3259
02:41:40,260 --> 02:41:38,619
figure out and understand about the past

3260
02:41:43,529 --> 02:41:40,270
the more that we know that what is in

3261
02:41:45,389 --> 02:41:43,539
what is in the encyclopedias and what is

3262
02:41:48,260 --> 02:41:45,399
being taught in universities and schools

3263
02:41:49,800 --> 02:41:48,270
around the world is simply not true

3264
02:41:53,189 --> 02:41:49,810
there you go

3265
02:41:55,710 --> 02:41:53,199
Hamas is blowing a gasket yes he is all

3266
02:41:58,170 --> 02:41:55,720
right there you go Thank You Robert

3267
02:42:02,069 --> 02:41:58,180
Schoch I needed that I needed a really

3268
02:42:03,540 --> 02:42:02,079
good dose of Gobekli Tepe and I wonder

3269
02:42:04,409 --> 02:42:03,550
what happened in that King's Chamber

3270
02:42:07,290 --> 02:42:04,419
yeah

3271
02:42:11,069 --> 02:42:07,300
he's right I want to go back in I didn't

3272
02:42:13,500 --> 02:42:11,079
I didn't talk about this but Napoleon

3273
02:42:16,229 --> 02:42:13,510
was so moved when he came out that

3274
02:42:17,880 --> 02:42:16,239
morning about what happened to him in

3275
02:42:21,300 --> 02:42:17,890
the King's Chamber it changed him and he

3276
02:42:26,279 --> 02:42:21,310
never spoke about it never did what is

3277
02:42:28,469 --> 02:42:26,289
going on there there has to be there's

3278
02:42:33,090 --> 02:42:28,479
got to be some type of electromagnetic

3279
02:42:35,670 --> 02:42:33,100
resonance the granite is alive right you

3280
02:42:38,159 --> 02:42:35,680
have the waitin up just listen to me you

3281
02:42:43,050 --> 02:42:38,169
have the weight of the Great Pyramid

3282
02:42:46,319 --> 02:42:43,060
above you and that weight causes motion

3283
02:42:49,439 --> 02:42:46,329
it's a force right it's a force it's a

3284
02:42:50,159 --> 02:42:49,449
constant force that is coming down onto

3285
02:42:53,130 --> 02:42:50,169
itself

3286
02:42:55,080 --> 02:42:53,140
it's got to be creating some type of

3287
02:42:57,869 --> 02:42:55,090
energy in there and I'm not talking

3288
02:43:00,210 --> 02:42:57,879
about some new-age woowoo stuff that's

3289
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:00,220
no I'm talking about I'm talking about

3290
02:43:06,359 --> 02:43:03,970
science physics electricity and the

3291
02:43:09,569 --> 02:43:06,369
force of these rocks it's a constant

3292
02:43:13,619 --> 02:43:09,579
pressure that's energy and it is being

3293
02:43:15,689 --> 02:43:13,629
created so sitting laying in the King's

3294
02:43:18,689 --> 02:43:15,699
Chamber with the weight of the world

3295
02:43:21,540 --> 02:43:18,699
above you and the force coming down on

3296
02:43:24,479 --> 02:43:21,550
all of those rocks and those carved

3297
02:43:26,760 --> 02:43:24,489
stones so precisely fit together there

3298
02:43:29,969 --> 02:43:26,770
is something that is happening there I

3299
02:43:32,519 --> 02:43:29,979
can only imagine what goes on in your

3300
02:43:34,859 --> 02:43:32,529
brain the visions that you have the

3301
02:43:38,099 --> 02:43:34,869
thoughts that you have if you do happen

3302
02:43:40,500 --> 02:43:38,109
to sleep the dreams that you would have

3303
02:43:43,050 --> 02:43:40,510
who is going to come there and visit

3304
02:43:46,260 --> 02:43:43,060
with you and speak with you what is it

3305
02:43:48,149 --> 02:43:46,270
how you view the world why while you are

3306
02:43:50,790 --> 02:43:48,159
in there think about that for a second

3307
02:43:53,219 --> 02:43:50,800
right and I understand I'm going to get

3308
02:43:55,590 --> 02:43:53,229
it out of them one day though I promise

3309
02:43:57,540 --> 02:43:55,600
I got to go do it myself

3310
02:43:59,309 --> 02:43:57,550
Rita and I need to spend the night in

3311
02:44:01,050 --> 02:43:59,319
the King's Chamber and you know what we

3312
02:44:05,040 --> 02:44:01,060
probably wouldn't talk about it either

3313
02:44:09,389 --> 02:44:05,050
just just to know because we could all

3314
02:44:13,399 --> 02:44:09,399
right right now right now I've got to

3315
02:44:15,520 --> 02:44:13,409
move on to something pretty important

3316
02:44:20,760 --> 02:44:15,530
excuse me

3317
02:44:24,370 --> 02:44:20,770
the Bilderberg Group is meeting right

3318
02:44:25,720 --> 02:44:24,380
now should have had marked ice on the

3319
02:44:30,130 --> 02:44:25,730
show maybe we'll do that tomorrow I'll

3320
02:44:33,190 --> 02:44:30,140
give a marker call but the world's most

3321
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:33,200
powerful people are gathering for their

3322
02:44:41,440 --> 02:44:38,090
annual meeting and on the schedule are

3323
02:44:43,630 --> 02:44:41,450
you ready for this right now on the

3324
02:44:46,900 --> 02:44:43,640
schedule I've got a partial list here of

3325
02:44:50,790 --> 02:44:46,910
things that are on the table is Russia

3326
02:44:54,390 --> 02:44:50,800
the Trump administration and the war on

3327
02:44:56,020 --> 02:44:54,400
information this is part of the topics

3328
02:44:59,380 --> 02:44:56,030
that's right

3329
02:45:02,620 --> 02:44:59,390
this year Gathering is in Chantilly

3330
02:45:04,390 --> 02:45:02,630
Virginia it's less than 30 miles from

3331
02:45:08,500 --> 02:45:04,400
the White House now isn't that

3332
02:45:10,240 --> 02:45:08,510
interesting and everything that is going

3333
02:45:12,340 --> 02:45:10,250
on in the Oval Office

3334
02:45:14,890 --> 02:45:12,350
right now is being discussed in

3335
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:14,900
Chantilly I guarantee it it's the top of

3336
02:45:19,750 --> 02:45:17,690
the agenda 131 people are getting

3337
02:45:22,150 --> 02:45:19,760
together and there that have confirmed

3338
02:45:23,710 --> 02:45:22,160
that they are attending there are a few

3339
02:45:25,630 --> 02:45:23,720
from the White House that are going to

3340
02:45:29,140 --> 02:45:25,640
be there it's a four-day event of course

3341
02:45:32,950 --> 02:45:29,150
and from the White House we have the

3342
02:45:34,720 --> 02:45:32,960
Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross he's

3343
02:45:38,290 --> 02:45:34,730
going to be their national security

3344
02:45:40,090 --> 02:45:38,300
adviser McMaster is going to be there

3345
02:45:42,730 --> 02:45:40,100
and assistant to the president

3346
02:45:45,520 --> 02:45:42,740
Christopher Liddell are all in

3347
02:45:48,850 --> 02:45:45,530
attendance at the Bilderberg other

3348
02:45:51,940 --> 02:45:48,860
topics that they have released for

3349
02:45:54,190 --> 02:45:51,950
discussion include now digest this I'll

3350
02:45:57,640 --> 02:45:54,200
break it down for you include and I'm

3351
02:46:04,680 --> 02:45:57,650
quoting here Russia in the international

3352
02:46:11,860 --> 02:46:08,230
Russia in the international order what

3353
02:46:15,730 --> 02:46:11,870
does that even mean now I see that ad

3354
02:46:17,860 --> 02:46:15,740
and just just order right there there

3355
02:46:20,110 --> 02:46:17,870
are visions of the Cabal and the

3356
02:46:22,600 --> 02:46:20,120
Illuminati and other things just by

3357
02:46:27,490 --> 02:46:22,610
saying the word order are they talking

3358
02:46:29,439 --> 02:46:27,500
about the order of power and influence

3359
02:46:31,809 --> 02:46:29,449
are they talking about that

3360
02:46:35,139 --> 02:46:31,819
as Russia been elevated as Russia been

3361
02:46:40,779 --> 02:46:35,149
reduced Indian in the in the order of

3362
02:46:44,289 --> 02:46:40,789
things right China and the transatlantic

3363
02:46:48,579 --> 02:46:44,299
defense Alliance and it's called bullets

3364
02:46:51,359 --> 02:46:48,589
bites and bucks that is a topic for

3365
02:46:54,249 --> 02:46:51,369
discussion now we're talking about

3366
02:46:56,229 --> 02:46:54,259
Europe's most influential North

3367
02:46:58,599 --> 02:46:56,239
America's most influential people are

3368
02:47:00,880 --> 02:46:58,609
sitting around they got paper papers in

3369
02:47:02,529 --> 02:47:00,890
front of them and they're looking at the

3370
02:47:05,649 --> 02:47:02,539
topics that they are going to discuss

3371
02:47:07,989 --> 02:47:05,659
and and right there is China the

3372
02:47:10,199 --> 02:47:07,999
transatlantic defense alliance bullets

3373
02:47:14,920 --> 02:47:10,209
bytes and bucks

3374
02:47:16,869 --> 02:47:14,930
what is it that I mean and and and we

3375
02:47:18,909 --> 02:47:16,879
got to think about Henry Kissinger is

3376
02:47:20,709 --> 02:47:18,919
going to be there you have to think

3377
02:47:22,749 --> 02:47:20,719
about how they are going to analyze this

3378
02:47:25,869 --> 02:47:22,759
and break this down and what is it that

3379
02:47:31,599 --> 02:47:25,879
they need to get out of a discussion

3380
02:47:34,209 --> 02:47:31,609
like that absolutely frightening another

3381
02:47:37,059 --> 02:47:34,219
topic for discussion and I can't make

3382
02:47:40,559 --> 02:47:37,069
this stuff up it's called and I'm

3383
02:47:44,229 --> 02:47:40,569
quoting it's in quotes the war on

3384
02:47:47,279 --> 02:47:44,239
information we're talking about the

3385
02:47:52,449 --> 02:47:47,289
bilderbergs we are talking about bankers

3386
02:47:55,359 --> 02:47:52,459
finance media heads of state heads of

3387
02:47:58,869 --> 02:47:55,369
finance the war machine the

3388
02:48:01,949 --> 02:47:58,879
military-industrial complex all gathered

3389
02:48:07,359 --> 02:48:01,959
and they want to discuss the war on

3390
02:48:12,760 --> 02:48:07,369
information now I can't stress enough

3391
02:48:15,189 --> 02:48:12,770
that the the media mass media how it is

3392
02:48:17,559 --> 02:48:15,199
dealt how it is distributed and what

3393
02:48:20,340 --> 02:48:17,569
information is being distributed is

3394
02:48:23,859 --> 02:48:20,350
dictated by just a handful of people and

3395
02:48:27,609 --> 02:48:23,869
that handful of people is gathering in

3396
02:48:29,800 --> 02:48:27,619
Chantilly Virginia and part of their

3397
02:48:38,260 --> 02:48:29,810
discussion over the next four days is

3398
02:48:41,150 --> 02:48:38,270
the war on information next topic is the

3399
02:48:46,591 --> 02:48:41,160
direction of the EU

3400
02:48:49,650 --> 02:48:46,601
now we have brexit we have other issues

3401
02:48:54,500 --> 02:48:49,660
with other countries they're not only

3402
02:48:58,410 --> 02:48:54,510
with directly with the EU but why would

3403
02:49:01,261 --> 02:48:58,420
the European Union be discussed in that

3404
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:01,271
context in other words are they

3405
02:49:09,390 --> 02:49:04,800
interested in breaking it up are they

3406
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:09,400
trying to keep it together what what is

3407
02:49:14,730 --> 02:49:11,920
the advantage for the Bilderberg Group

3408
02:49:17,310 --> 02:49:14,740
with the European Union

3409
02:49:19,830 --> 02:49:17,320
certainly 20 years ago 30 years ago in

3410
02:49:23,100 --> 02:49:19,840
the early 70s when when the euro was

3411
02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:23,110
first discussed and the concept of EU

3412
02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:25,930
was discussed and you had NATO and he

3413
02:49:31,500 --> 02:49:29,050
had the cold war going on right the EU

3414
02:49:34,830 --> 02:49:31,510
was a different thing today it's not

3415
02:49:37,770 --> 02:49:34,840
that kind of party so what is in the

3416
02:49:40,320 --> 02:49:37,780
best interest right now of the world and

3417
02:49:43,200 --> 02:49:40,330
the Illuminati the Cabal the Bilderberg

3418
02:49:44,900 --> 02:49:43,210
Group with the European Union do they

3419
02:49:47,400 --> 02:49:44,910
want to break it up

3420
02:49:52,380 --> 02:49:47,410
think about that for a second the

3421
02:49:54,540 --> 02:49:52,390
direction of the EU very interesting

3422
02:49:56,970 --> 02:49:54,550
some stuff is going to be happening here

3423
02:50:00,091 --> 02:49:56,980
in the next couple of years and when you

3424
02:50:04,230 --> 02:50:00,101
when you think about the implications of

3425
02:50:07,350 --> 02:50:04,240
brexit and fracks it you know France

3426
02:50:10,591 --> 02:50:07,360
maybe or or you take it even a step

3427
02:50:11,310 --> 02:50:10,601
further what about Greece right what

3428
02:50:15,000 --> 02:50:11,320
about Italy

3429
02:50:17,400 --> 02:50:15,010
what about Germany you know the

3430
02:50:19,440 --> 02:50:17,410
strongest country there the the one that

3431
02:50:23,460 --> 02:50:19,450
is the most profitable at the moment is

3432
02:50:25,350 --> 02:50:23,470
Germany does Merkel need the EU right on

3433
02:50:27,210 --> 02:50:25,360
the path it's just it's a crazy

3434
02:50:30,870 --> 02:50:27,220
situation going on with the Bilderberg

3435
02:50:31,261 --> 02:50:30,880
Group next on the agenda is are you

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ready

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02:50:39,990 --> 02:50:34,980
why and this is in quotes why is

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populism growing now this obviously has

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02:50:49,410 --> 02:50:45,521
to be a concern with the leaders of the

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02:50:53,760 --> 02:50:49,420
dark world the deep state what is really

3441
02:50:55,559 --> 02:50:53,770
going on when we have the issue

3442
02:50:58,019 --> 02:50:55,569
that is front and center for everybody

3443
02:51:00,689 --> 02:50:58,029
which is the petrodollar and and the

3444
02:51:04,050 --> 02:51:00,699
prophets and how oil is is bought and

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02:51:07,500 --> 02:51:04,060
sold around the world and how it it

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02:51:08,910 --> 02:51:07,510
props up every economy without oil you

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02:51:12,359 --> 02:51:08,920
don't have an infrastructure and you

3448
02:51:14,519 --> 02:51:12,369
have to purchase it all of that profit

3449
02:51:17,179 --> 02:51:14,529
you know for every barrel that is sold

3450
02:51:20,819 --> 02:51:17,189
goes right into the United States and if

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02:51:23,729 --> 02:51:20,829
suddenly populism is growing in and and

3452
02:51:26,790 --> 02:51:23,739
they need to address all of this on an

3453
02:51:30,149 --> 02:51:26,800
economic level they've got to curtail

3454
02:51:33,899 --> 02:51:30,159
things right after a with with what went

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02:51:38,130 --> 02:51:33,909
on and it's so important what the the

3456
02:51:40,649 --> 02:51:38,140
the Arab Spring right what's going on in

3457
02:51:43,170 --> 02:51:40,659
Europe right now what's going on in

3458
02:51:45,059 --> 02:51:43,180
Venezuela and other countries around the

3459
02:51:48,719 --> 02:51:45,069
world certainly North and South Korea

3460
02:51:51,149 --> 02:51:48,729
right there that that populism and the

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02:51:53,460 --> 02:51:51,159
very idea of that is exactly what they

3462
02:51:58,380 --> 02:51:53,470
don't want and they want to know why is

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02:52:02,279 --> 02:51:58,390
it growing and if it if it continues do

3464
02:52:04,260 --> 02:52:02,289
we gain control us our voice think about

3465
02:52:07,529 --> 02:52:04,270
that for that's exactly what they don't

3466
02:52:09,359 --> 02:52:07,539
want very interesting to have that as I

3467
02:52:11,630 --> 02:52:09,369
could see the bullet points underneath

3468
02:52:15,210 --> 02:52:11,640
that and what they need to discuss

3469
02:52:17,519 --> 02:52:15,220
doesn't get any darker then what I've

3470
02:52:21,290 --> 02:52:17,529
just laid out for you that's what goes

3471
02:52:26,550 --> 02:52:21,300
on there now this year's event is its

3472
02:52:30,269 --> 02:52:26,560
65th meeting totally secret it has met

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02:52:33,210 --> 02:52:30,279
every year since 1954 Denis Healey

3474
02:52:37,080 --> 02:52:33,220
Joseph Redding er David Rockefeller

3475
02:52:39,649 --> 02:52:37,090
Prince Bernhard the Netherlands were the

3476
02:52:42,599 --> 02:52:39,659
group's founders the bilderbergs

3477
02:52:46,620 --> 02:52:42,609
the bilderbergs say that the conference

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02:52:52,380 --> 02:52:46,630
is to foster dialogue between Europe and

3479
02:52:54,840 --> 02:52:52,390
North America I would say that yes I'm

3480
02:52:57,389 --> 02:52:54,850
going to do that in just a second here

3481
02:52:59,779 --> 02:52:57,399
oh really I don't know if we have enough

3482
02:53:01,710 --> 02:52:59,789
time to do that but I want to do that

3483
02:53:03,540 --> 02:53:01,720
I'm going to get to the end of this

3484
02:53:07,060 --> 02:53:03,550
really quick I've got to get to also

3485
02:53:11,110 --> 02:53:07,070
cicada 3301 tomorrow is June 4

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02:53:12,870 --> 02:53:11,120
first falling on a Fator night and some

3487
02:53:16,240 --> 02:53:12,880
of the updates that have happened over

3488
02:53:19,570 --> 02:53:16,250
in the last 24 hours our twitter has

3489
02:53:23,381 --> 02:53:19,580
been filled up I'm waiting for a couple

3490
02:53:25,570 --> 02:53:23,391
of things to take a turn here so defang

3491
02:53:27,011 --> 02:53:25,580
go if you're listening now let's get you

3492
02:53:31,690 --> 02:53:27,021
on the show tomorrow night we'll do a

3493
02:53:33,761 --> 02:53:31,700
full cicada 3301 update I'm very excited

3494
02:53:35,560 --> 02:53:33,771
about what is going to be happening

3495
02:53:38,171 --> 02:53:35,570
tomorrow these PDFs that have been

3496
02:53:39,520 --> 02:53:38,181
released but we'll do that on tomorrow

3497
02:53:41,440 --> 02:53:39,530
night's show

3498
02:53:42,730 --> 02:53:41,450
but the bilderberg say that the

3499
02:53:44,501 --> 02:53:42,740
conference is designed to foster

3500
02:53:46,511 --> 02:53:44,511
dialogue between Europe and North

3501
02:53:50,230 --> 02:53:46,521
America I find that totally interesting

3502
02:53:53,020 --> 02:53:50,240
it's actually the entire world each year

3503
02:53:55,720 --> 02:53:53,030
it's attended by people from politics

3504
02:53:57,671 --> 02:53:55,730
industry finance media academia about

3505
02:53:59,430 --> 02:53:57,681
two-thirds of the participants come from

3506
02:54:03,041 --> 02:53:59,440
Europe and the rest from North America

3507
02:54:05,190 --> 02:54:03,051
now as well as some of trumps top brass

3508
02:54:09,160 --> 02:54:05,200
other attendees this year include

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02:54:12,940 --> 02:54:09,170
Secretary General of NATO yep jens

3510
02:54:14,801 --> 02:54:12,950
stoltenberg rep Republican senators Tom

3511
02:54:17,320 --> 02:54:14,811
cotton and Lindsey Graham are in

3512
02:54:22,810 --> 02:54:17,330
attendance and Chinese ambassador to the

3513
02:54:25,620 --> 02:54:22,820
US cui tenkai now we have editors and

3514
02:54:27,970 --> 02:54:25,630
chief commentators from several of

3515
02:54:30,190 --> 02:54:27,980
publications including Bloomberg The

3516
02:54:32,230 --> 02:54:30,200
Economist's of course right there

3517
02:54:34,091 --> 02:54:32,240
they're the Financial Times The Wall

3518
02:54:35,501 --> 02:54:34,101
Street Journal Italian newspaper

3519
02:54:38,470 --> 02:54:35,511
Corriere della Sera

3520
02:54:41,830 --> 02:54:38,480
and the London Evening Standard they

3521
02:54:43,961 --> 02:54:41,840
will all be in attendance but it's

3522
02:54:46,511 --> 02:54:43,971
notorious for the lack of information

3523
02:54:48,461 --> 02:54:46,521
about actually what actually happens

3524
02:54:51,100 --> 02:54:48,471
during the discussions that I've laid

3525
02:54:53,410 --> 02:54:51,110
out for you the meetings are completely

3526
02:54:56,200 --> 02:54:53,420
closed to the public of course and to

3527
02:54:58,751 --> 02:54:56,210
reporting journalists in general they

3528
02:55:01,511 --> 02:54:58,761
don't attend all of the meetings are

3529
02:55:04,211 --> 02:55:01,521
held under the Chatham House rule which

3530
02:55:07,421 --> 02:55:04,221
means that participants are free to use

3531
02:55:10,091 --> 02:55:07,431
the information received right but

3532
02:55:15,970 --> 02:55:10,101
neither the identity nor the affiliation

3533
02:55:20,040 --> 02:55:15,980
of the speakers can be revealed also no

3534
02:55:25,190 --> 02:55:20,050
minutes no notes no reports are

3535
02:55:27,660 --> 02:55:25,200
taken or written everything is memory

3536
02:55:30,450 --> 02:55:27,670
now nobody can buy their way into the

3537
02:55:32,610 --> 02:55:30,460
meetings rather everybody has to be

3538
02:55:34,830 --> 02:55:32,620
invited the invited guests are not

3539
02:55:36,540 --> 02:55:34,840
allowed to bring any partners you must

3540
02:55:38,429 --> 02:55:36,550
attend alone you're married your wife

3541
02:55:40,950 --> 02:55:38,439
stays at home you're married your

3542
02:55:44,040 --> 02:55:40,960
husband stays at home if you are invited

3543
02:55:48,059 --> 02:55:44,050
the group never visits the same hotel or

3544
02:55:51,240 --> 02:55:48,069
location twice pass attendees include

3545
02:55:52,530 --> 02:55:51,250
Henry Kissinger who is going to attend

3546
02:55:56,370 --> 02:55:52,540
again this year

3547
02:55:58,590 --> 02:55:56,380
Bill Gates right all the European royal

3548
02:56:00,570 --> 02:55:58,600
families Bill Clinton and Margaret

3549
02:56:02,969 --> 02:56:00,580
Thatcher of course both attended before

3550
02:56:06,360 --> 02:56:02,979
they rose to power and of course you

3551
02:56:08,580 --> 02:56:06,370
have Barack Obama now I couldn't who

3552
02:56:12,840 --> 02:56:08,590
actually was chosen to be the next

3553
02:56:17,070 --> 02:56:12,850
president at in 2008 but couldn't find

3554
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:17,080
Trump's name on any pass list I tried to

3555
02:56:21,719 --> 02:56:19,090
find it it doesn't exist

3556
02:56:25,020 --> 02:56:21,729
did he ever attend a meeting in secret I

3557
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:25,030
don't know I could not find Trump's name

3558
02:56:32,219 --> 02:56:28,000
anywhere and I find that interesting

3559
02:56:34,860 --> 02:56:32,229
with that that's going to wrap up Oh the

3560
02:56:37,349 --> 02:56:34,870
shock and awe special with Robert Schoch

3561
02:56:39,719 --> 02:56:37,359
and gobekli tepe thank you Robert great

3562
02:56:41,639 --> 02:56:39,729
conversation tonight tomorrow night is

3563
02:56:45,030 --> 02:56:41,649
another Fator night with Jon Rappoport

3564
02:56:46,650 --> 02:56:45,040
and it's no more fake newsroom live paid

3565
02:56:48,510 --> 02:56:46,660
to Black's executive producers Rita

3566
02:56:50,760 --> 02:56:48,520
Kumari on shows produced by him Jay Paul

3567
02:56:53,160 --> 02:56:50,770
Marty colbaugh LJ 3 Rene Jonas Thank You

3568
02:56:55,710 --> 02:56:53,170
Dennis thank you Bob announces our Steve

3569
02:56:58,139 --> 02:56:55,720
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3570
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02:57:08,340 --> 02:57:03,520
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02:57:19,260 --> 02:57:17,530
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02:57:20,820 --> 02:57:19,270
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02:57:23,099 --> 02:57:20,830
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02:57:24,150 --> 02:57:23,109
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3581
02:57:28,290 --> 02:57:24,160
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3582
02:57:33,929 --> 02:57:28,300
tomorrow night Fator night cicada 3301

3583
02:57:37,710 --> 02:57:33,939
update it is June 1st episode 6 6 7

3584
02:57:38,389 --> 02:57:37,720
follow me on twitter @ JT radio until

3585
02:57:43,160 --> 02:57:38,399
tomorrow night

3586
02:57:53,440 --> 02:57:43,170
everybody be safe Gobekli Tepe

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